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Thoughts on Cindy Sheehan (anti-Bush lady)

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by zman, Aug 23, 2005.

  1. zman

    zman Peon

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    #81
    I disagree. DA and I have argued here, but we both have talked via PM or rep. You can debate and still be an adult you know.

    You say fight, I say debate. As long as it is left at debate it is fine.
     
    zman, Aug 23, 2005 IP
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #82
    What part of my posting don't you understand?

    IT IS ARMY'S OWN RESEARCH AND WEB SITE.

    IF YOU THINK ARMY INSULTS THE SOLDIERS BY TAKING THE TEST OR PUBLISHING THE RESULT,

    that's your problem.
     
    gworld, Aug 23, 2005 IP
  3. zman

    zman Peon

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    #83
    that is the only thing I saw in your post. Did I miss something? If I did I'll eat my words and wear the dunce hat for a few minutes. ;)
     
    zman, Aug 23, 2005 IP
  4. Joe Blow

    Joe Blow Well-Known Member

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    #84
    Who's freedom was he protecting?

    Man, seriously, you sound like Fox News.
     
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  5. zman

    zman Peon

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    #85
    lol, funny stuff. Maybe I should start watching Fox news then. ;)
     
    zman, Aug 23, 2005 IP
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #86

    Here is the link to my original posting.

    "Most young men and women see postsecondary education as the key to prosperity and job security. The percent of youth going to college is increasing, and YATS results show that young people are aware that the military offers money for a college education. Educational funding is the most frequently cited reason for enlisting, and the percent of youth mentioning education funding is growing.
    ............................

    For many noncollege youth, military service offers an opportunity for job experience and specialized training.
    ..............................

    These findings underscore the need for college funds to attract an important segment of college-bound youth (those needing money).
    "

    The quote is from Army's own material.


    START EATING.
     
    gworld, Aug 23, 2005 IP
  7. Joe Blow

    Joe Blow Well-Known Member

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    #87
    Those who support war always have an excuse why they can't fight.

    If the bombs were falling on their neighbourhood I guarantee they'd change their views pretty quickly.
     
    Joe Blow, Aug 23, 2005 IP
  8. zman

    zman Peon

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    #88
    So how can you assume based on that information that Sheenan went in for that reason?

    Is there a specific study for him?
     
    zman, Aug 23, 2005 IP
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #89
    Here is the link to your post that quoted me saying that I don't know about his specific case. So you knew very well that I wasn't talking about him.

    For someone who says he is not a politician, you certainly know how to lie like one.

    Here is another one that got killed but didn't want to be there.

    "Nadia and Robert McCaffrey, whose son Patrick was killed in Iraq in June 2004, said "Operation Iraqi Freedom" ended up on his government-supplied headstone in Oceanside, California, without family approval.

    "I was a little taken aback," Robert McCaffrey said, describing his reaction when he first saw the operation name on Patrick's tombstone. "They certainly didn't ask my wife; they didn't ask me."

    He said Patrick's widow told him she had not been asked either.

    "In one way, I feel it's taking advantage to a small degree," McCaffrey said. "Patrick did not want to be there; that is a definite fact."

    http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/23/war.gravestones.ap/index.html
     
    gworld, Aug 23, 2005 IP
  10. zman

    zman Peon

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    #90
    Ouch! Thats a bit harsh dont ya think.

    Ok so we have established that it is not known why he joined. There is an opinion, but no proof. Thats what I was trying to get at. :D
     
    zman, Aug 24, 2005 IP
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    Design Agent Peon

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    #91
    zman & I were debating and it didnt get to personal insults - THAT is the point.. how will either of us ever change our views if we dont discuss? I respect the fact that he can be opinionated and stand up for what he believes in, he's not forcing anyone to agree, the pot smoking, tattoo'd independent conservative politician from reno :p

    If he was calling me a moron and vice versa, then there just would have been no conversation full stop. Hence I cant really read most Gworlds comments - although I often kind of agree.

    btw, no race card - was trying to workout 'when' it was so good for you ;)
     
    Design Agent, Aug 24, 2005 IP
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #92

    :confused: :confused: :confused:

    Try to use quote=name of poster, so we know who you are quoting and what is it about.
     
    gworld, Aug 24, 2005 IP
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    #93
    I think he was reffering to this:
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=25292&page=7

    About 50 people posted PM me please when he wouldn't give the info on the site so I said Not to PM me, as a little bit of a joke.
    He took it personally and told me not to waste his time.
    zman came to my defence that it was pretty funny in an otherwise pointless thread.

    Its off topic in this thread
     
    yfs1, Aug 24, 2005 IP
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    #94
    Nobody wins on a war. However, since it was already there, the best thing that BUsh should do is to finish the job.
     
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  15. zman

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    #95
    Crap, I quoted the wrong thing. I fixed it now. ;)
     
    zman, Aug 24, 2005 IP
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    palespyder Psycho Ninja

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    #96
    You Rang?? ;)

    Sheehan has the right to speak her mind and to protest whats going on, but, the service in the military is voluntary. Noone forced her son to join. HE made the decision to fight, HE made the decision to put his life on the line against the enemies of the U.S. and therefore HE is responsible for his actions, not George Bush. I can empathize with the protestors from the Vietnam era because alot of those kids were drafted against their will, but, now our entire military force is voluntary service and it is each man and woman of those forces who make a conscious decision to join a high risk profession. Mrs. Sheehan should go home and let the President do his job, now that we are in Iraq it would be an incredibly BAD idea to just walk away.
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #97
    Isn't the whole thread about a mother with "monkey love" towards her son instead of "unconditional love". - I guess she feels guilty and perhaps is.
     
    Arnie, Aug 24, 2005 IP
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    #98
    Its easy to say that when you have the skills to design and rank sites. For many it is not really a choice - for some it is the best option in their lives.

    yes, its a bad Idea to leave, but actually I think that this will damage the US govt. rather than actually stop the war. A change of approach has been required since before the war was declared. So it is long overdue.
     
    Design Agent, Aug 24, 2005 IP
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    #99
    What is "monkey love" ?
     
    gworld, Aug 24, 2005 IP
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #100
    The love for this world, material, social status and so.
     
    Arnie, Aug 24, 2005 IP