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Some directories was removed from dmoz

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by Antonio, Apr 20, 2007.

  1. shortd81

    shortd81 Banned

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    #21
    All I have to say, is DMOZ has been around for a long time and honestly for the last year almost nothing but problems. I don't even try to submit my sites to the directory for what. I can submit to 3 free directories and within 6 months I will have the same (If not more) PR then I would from 1 Dmoz listing. And that's after waiting 1.5 years.

    Honestly if you ask me Directory Dump and Alive Directory are MUCH better quality web directories and once they've been online as long as DMOZ it will only be an added plus for them.

    Dmoz=Waste of time

    As some stated above Free submissions give the owner(s) the right to remove your link when ever they want. ESPECIALLY DMOZ.
     
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  2. martty

    martty Banned

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    #22
    That sums it up really well. Those 2 directories may be better for SEO than DMOZ (=waste if thats what you are after - DMOZ does not provide that service). But pick a random category from one of those 2 directories (esp a health related one) and look at the crap listed compared to DMOZ - DMOZ is way better for the user if you want to use a directory rather than a search engine to find something (=not a waste if looking for content). DMOZ is not there as some sort of service for the webmaster, so you are complaining about a service that just does not exist.
     
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  3. shortd81

    shortd81 Banned

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    #23
    Martty it all depends on what matters to you more. As far as DMOZ no matter how you look at it 1 SITE WILL NEVER BREAK A SITE. Try to remember that.

    I'd rather pay $100 for a featured link in Alive Directory then EVEN WASTE my time submitting and waiting.

    I know for a fact that 1 of these high quality directories will also be expanding and will be just as widely known for PR, Search Results and Traffic.
     
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  4. martty

    martty Banned

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    #24
    I am not disagreeing with you. DMOZ is just there for a different purpose than the directories you mentioned.
     
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  5. an0n

    an0n Prominent Member

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    #25
    And you think a directory is made over night? It takes time to grow.
    Once again, as per your 'guidelines', not a single category possesses a single listing that meets your standardized criteria to be listed.

    I could populate ANY directory in a few hours time to rival listings that of the MOZ anyday and with better resources and content to boot along with it, so you get and even fuller effect and experience.
    It can be done without hassle too, however, then i guess that would render and ruin the directory as it would then be MOZ compliant, but not human edited, and that's not going to happen.(even though it would still possess better listings hahaha)

    Bottom line is; I would rather time and meticulous editing rather than over stuff and programmatically populate a directory just to be MOZ acceptable.

    The dmozasaurus cannot keep up with the new and innovating directories making their run for it, and I can understand your gripe. At your age, you are afraid of change and couldn't stand to lose your current position.

    (Bones)Dr. McCoy: Go... Where are we going?
    (Jim)Captain Kirk: Where they went.
    (Bones)Dr. McCoy: Suppose they went nowhere.
    (Jim)Captain Kirk: Then this will be your big chance to get away from it all.
     
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  6. malcolm1

    malcolm1 Prominent Member

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    #26


    Tick Tock........ times a runnin out for Dmoz , just like the T-Rex its about to become extinct soon :eek:

    On a serious note.... Dmoz has gotten very sloppy to say the least... shouldnt someone have to pay for thier wrong doings??
    While i understand you as editors have complete control to dictate situations i think someone should be accountable for thier ill acts or atleast an explanation as to why SOME quality directories were removed?. When we think about it , wouldnt we be looked down at if our actions deemed the same..:(
     
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  7. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #27
    Patience is a virtue...

    It only takes 5 minutes to fill out the suggestion form on DMOZ, and assuming you are submitting a quality site to a category with an active editor, it'll likely get listed.

    But then, I guess, some people have to pay for their links...
     
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  8. shortd81

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    #28
    As I stated before I'm guessing you didn't read it
    It's not the fact that it is waiting, It's the fact that the only thing dmoz has is google which branded them. MOST not all of the editors have some serious issues. *Hence* the fact of the removals that's not even saying how many problems they have had in the past year.

    DMOZ is an ok site, but nothing which you will see me cry about not getting in AT ALL. Either way I have 2 sites in since I hear you talk about QUALITY :rolleyes:
     
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  9. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #29

    I'm just saying, that $100 vs. 5 minutes is a very odd comparison...especially if it does get listed. I mean, time IS money, but are you really making that much?

    I'd not cry over not getting listed either, but I'll also not pass up trying for a $100 link.
     
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    #30
    Making what $100? I make that from google as of now almost every other week with one of my sites (dollarfriend) which isn't even complete.

    To sum up my point:
    DMOZ isn't worth my time (WAY TOO MANY ISSUES), although I do have patience, 0 for Dmoz.
     
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  11. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #31
    And time is money. Sure, if you feel like playing the numbers game, go ahead and submit to DMOZ. But there are many business oriented seo´s who have already scratched DMOZ of their list.

    If you know an editor who can help you in directly, that is one thing. But generally you won´t get in unless and editor really feels like doing something and your site submitted live up to his standards.
     
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    #32
    Guys lets forget about Dmoz. And dont waste your time on that.
    Alive & Aviva going to bigger than dmoz after couple of years. then we will talk about them:)
     
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  13. martty

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    #33
    lol - DMOZ adds more sites in a month than what Alive has listed in total. How is it going to catch up?

    And before you take a pot shot at that, just download a couple of successive DMOZ rdf dumps and see for yourself how many sites DMOZ grows by each month.

    As DMOZ is the fastest growing directory, this so called dinosaur is doing pretty well considering no other directory comes remotely close to its growth rate.
     
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    #34
    You want *my* pot shot... sure...

    Because we ALL know that porn is a billion dollar a year business, so of course it's going to grow at a much faster rate.

    I guess it sucks to be us, because we don't do porn.


    <!---- pot shot over and out ---!>
     
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    #35
    An0n
    Nicely said
    Rep added for that
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    #36
    heheheheheh well enough said... Green sent!
     
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  17. Qryztufre

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    #37
    Accordingly, as there is such a demand for porn from the internet community, it only stands to reason that a directory aimed at internet users would add in such sites...

    I'm not saying that it makes DMOZ a better directory, just saying it's doing exactly what it's claimed. Though I must say, when I saw the porn threads about DMOZ here on DP, I went and looked, and the quality of those sites pretty much sucks (and I mean that in a non-porn way).

    So I guess, in a way, you can achieve quality over quantity, porn aside, many of the sites I've seen in DMOZ have been OK ~ though comparing directory to directory all I can really say is "dmoz has teh pr0n!"
     
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  18. compostannie

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    #38
    Yes I agree, and as I read this thread my heart aches. We should all have to pay for our wrongdoings. The editors participating in this thread are bound by DMOZ confidentiality guidelines so they can only say so much. I can say more because I am the someone who should be held accountable, I can confess my mistake without breaching those confidentiality guidelines.

    When DMOZ crashed, my love of ODP led me to investigate other types of directories and directory software. I studied, I learned and I eventually felt ready to clean up and improve some directory categories in DMOZ. I still think I can do that eventually, but not now and not for awhile. I likely won't be editing for awhile for personal reasons.

    For the last month or so I've been getting sick, I felt very tired but didn't know I was sick. I've been losing blood, by the beginning of this week I had to be hospitalized with hemoglobin down to about half of normal. The body and brain can't function properly with only half the blood it needs. My judgement was off. My husband says I've been spacing out in the middle of conversations for the last 2 weeks, he thought I was mad at him or something. This week I've had surgery to stop/slow the blood loss. I've received 5 blood transfusions. I'm still tired and can tell my thought process isn't what it should be. I have more surgery and blood transfusions scheduled for Monday to correct the cause of the problem.

    Getting sick like this happened over some time, so I didn't notice the gradual decrease in my mental capacity as it occurred. I'm much better now than I was when the week began...with the improvement happening so quick the difference is crystal clear to me...and I still have a way to go before I feel I can properly judge the editing work I've done over the past couple of months. Senior editors trusted me, so my mistakes weren't noticed immediately. Or, maybe I only started making mistakes very recently...I don't know yet.

    Cars break, computers break, hearts break, and humans break. It happens. Editors are human, I broke, I did shoddy work, a senior editor noticed and took corrective action. This is what we do in DMOZ. I won't reveal the name of the senior editor who did this, but I will say that the same editor also took the time to speak to me the night before I was hospitalized and helped me realize I had a problem that needed medical care fast. He/she likely saved my life.

    Yes this is true and I feel very, very ashamed and I offer my sincerest apologies to all the DMOZ editors, all the website owners who have been affected, as well as all the DP members. I'm sorry. :(

    If anyone should be held accountable, it should be me. If anyone is kicked out of the ODP because of this, it should be me. I hope the editors and dp members can forgive me and I can go back to editing when I'm ready and fit. But this isn't my decision, it's only my hope.

    I'll never be able to express how sorry I am that I caused all this controversy.
     
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    #39
    No apology needed - I'm sure that most everyone here will share my sentiments and wishes; your health comes first and I hope you're feeling better soon. Will keep you in my thoughts come Monday - tell hubby to let us know how you're doing if he's near a keyboard. ;)

    And I'm pretty sure you'll still be able to edit @dmoz when you're feeling up to it.
     
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    #40
    I'll just rest my case. Will just improve my directory to the best it can be. Its gunning for a good PR position. So I'm happy. It's still a Family Friendly Directory and its Guaranteed. Whatever "martty" says; in my book its an Authentic Family Friendly Site and you know it bloody well.

    @Annie
    I knew it was somebody since I recognized it but I did not qoute a name. It was in the directory cat though but was transferred to Family Friendly for any reason I don't know (Where it should be).
    But regardless now, My only wish is for your speedy recovery and offer our prayers for you.

    Thanks
     
    popotalk, Apr 21, 2007 IP