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How to make $5.00/day in 6 weeks or less

Discussion in 'AdSense' started by creativ, Aug 21, 2005.

  1. creativ

    creativ Peon

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    #41
    The two articles are for press releases at the launch stage. I use public domain articles for...

    You know what, I already can't be bothered. You either get it, or you don't.

    I asked for people to PM me as time is just too valuable to waste it reading and replying to the myriad of 'ifs', 'buts', etc. You either want to know how I do it, and are willing to try it yourself, or you don't.

    You have a better way? Have at it! My way isn't the only way! And it isn't necessarily the best, either! Just thought I'd try and give some direction to those who are where I once was, and this is the thanks you get...
     
    creativ, Aug 22, 2005 IP
  2. aeiouy

    aeiouy Peon

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    #42
    Oh.. so you pay $10 so people can write original press releases to get people to get to your retread content?


    I think I got it from the beginning. I was just giving you the benefit of the doubt. Thanks for disolving that doubt, though.


    The I am so busy, I can't be bothered to talk to people... What you really want to say is you just want people who agree with you and put you on a pedestal to PM you, and if anyone else does you can just ignore it. You can't as easily pick and choose whom you respond to in a thread because it makes you look dodgy. You started this thread. Nobody held a gun to your head to start it.

    If you feel that answering legitimate questions about your "plan" is a waste of your time, that is certainly for you to decide. I am sure you could make more money just packing this get "rich" quick scheme together and re-selling it. That is the real value of propositions such as the one you made here.

    Actually plenty of people thanked you for your advice. You start a thread in a public forum and you expect everyone to just accept everything you have said without question? Even the most authoritative, respected and knowledgable people on these forums would not receive such a reception. Are you new to the internet? :)

    Anyways, do what you want. You are right there are a lot of ways to skin a chicken. Yours is a way that actually doesn't take as much work as other ways. Just let it be said that I have no amount of love for people who use duplicate content to funnel their sites. The internet would be a much better place if it were working towards making sure people were being funneled and directed to find the actual information at its source instead of just having it repeated and being retread.

    I imagine your sites get a high CTR, because I doubt public domain article repositories are the ultimate authority on any particular subject.

    Clearly lots of people getting into web publishing and adsense want to get rich quick and don't want to spend any time or effort creating content or making unique sites or communities. Your plan has a lot of appeal for those people. Don't let me rain on your parade. Different strokes for different folks.

    Just do me a favor... Don't ever start a topic on a public forum and then tell people who offer some criticism that you are too busy to participate. That is ridiculous.
     
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  3. creativ

    creativ Peon

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    #43
    All valid points. But I never said I was too busy to participate. I'm just not prepared to 'reveal all' in a public forum so others can have their soapbox moments. I've stated before how too many people spend too much time in forums, questioning, posting, questioning some more - these are the same people that don't make money as they never actually take action.

    You're clearly one of them, and I am clearly at risk of becoming one of them. So, if you have something to say, PM me - it'll pop up in my email inbox to let me know someone wants to talk, so I don't have to waste all my time hanging out here waiting for responses.

    I will admit I'm asking you to trust me somewhat. Kind of like when my father told me he was going to let go of my bicycle and let me coast on my own. Guess what? I fell down! I got cut and bruised. But after a few failures I learned how to ride a bike!

    I didn't bambard him with questions to do with the science and physics behind balancing on two wheels. I just tried. And that's how I eventually succeeded.

    So, just TRY a tip or two - who knows, it might just work for you too! And if you don't like the whole premise of what I do, well, that's your problem, not mine. I get my pages listed, and they DO lead people to the things they are looking for. People sign up for email lists as they like what I have so much. Lists I can market to again and again and again. (oops, there's another tip - kind of slipped right out!)

    You over-analytical types like to throw tomatoes at the one in the stocks, tell everyone the sky is falling, and doubt everything. Not that there's anything wrong with that (!), it's just not for me.

    Love me or hate me, I got what I want out of life and if I can help you do the same I'll do my best. OK, gotta run. It's a Monday afternoon and most people are at work, but I'm going out to my pool for a swim with my daughter.

    Have a great day - and TAKE ACTION!!!
     
    creativ, Aug 22, 2005 IP
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    kandeman Peon

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    #44
    nice post, but a bit risky..
     
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  5. aeiouy

    aeiouy Peon

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    #45
    I definately see an infomercial in your future, creativ.
     
    aeiouy, Aug 22, 2005 IP
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    #46
    This thread should be called "How to be a spammer in 6 weeks." This is a spamming scheme. "quality content insertion tools" you speak of is a euphemism for spamming tool. What you're trying to create is a fairly new breed of spam called splog. It's short for spam blog. It's nothing more than a lame attempt at trying to generate traffic and mess with Google rankings. Also most splogs are doing this in violation of AdSense TOS. Blogspot has taken notice of this very recently and it's cracking down on this behavior.
     
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    Worldwid Peon

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    #47
    5 bucks a day in 6 weeks? Whats the point of even using blackhat methods for that :confused: I use my own methods and a 10 day old site I have is currently getting 5,000-6,000 unqiues a day. Doesnt seem worth it to me, I would just stick to clean SEO and you could probably do the same and not have the troubles of worrying about getting banned.
     
    Worldwid, Aug 22, 2005 IP
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    Agreed. 5 dollars a day is what most accomplish on a new site in a week or two after doing sites for a while.
     
    exaro, Aug 22, 2005 IP
  9. jlawrence

    jlawrence Peon

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    #49
    Why is using the facilities built into blogs classed as 'blackhat' - just because they can be abused doesn't mean you can't use them.
    This thread is going down hill quickly. People running serious businesses (ie big money making ones) don't sit on forums reading through posts - his request to PM him is valid imho.
    NOTE: there are some people (like me) who spend most of the day with a computer within reach, so following interesting threads isn't too much of a hardship.
    If you don't think that creativ has something useful you can learn then why bother replying. If he's seriously earning 500K+ per year, then he's doing something right. His methods might not fit with mine, but something that he does might well give me ideas.
    bluelarva: you seem to be reading the worse into everything. Quality content insertion tools could also be simply referring to pulling RSS or article feeds into a CMS.
    If you're running 100+ sites, then you need a format. I've said it over and over, you cannot manually run that many sites. Content generation (or rather insertion) needs to be automated.
    You could sit and write articles, collate RSS feed urls for a month. Place this information in a database, then pull it at intervals into the relevant sites.
    As Creativ has said, you don't need to like what he does. I don't like the spam I get in my inbox from porn sites, but I'm more than happy to use techniques that have been developed by that industry. Why not just see what he's got to say, there might be something that you could adapt to fit in with your own strategy.

    Worldwid: 5-6K uniques in 10 days, fancy saying how you achieved that ?
     
    jlawrence, Aug 22, 2005 IP
  10. palespyder

    palespyder Psycho Ninja

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    #50
    I would be hella surprised if he posts URL's, with the freakin vultures lurking unseen here thats asking for trouble IMHO. Your niche idea would be stolen and swamped so quickly it's not even remotely funny.
     
    palespyder, Aug 22, 2005 IP
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    #51
    No one in their right mind would post their money making urls on a forum populated with people from this industry. But looking at other sigs is a good way to generate ideas :D
     
    jlawrence, Aug 22, 2005 IP
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    palespyder Psycho Ninja

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    #52
    But since I am American and cricket is beyond me jlawrence....you can keep that one ;)
     
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    jlawrence Peon

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    #53
    LOL. It don't make money either - or rather $5 last month :). A niche site that doesn't pay is what I call a hobby - although I do run it on behalf of the club and pay any expenses for them involved with the site.
     
    jlawrence, Aug 22, 2005 IP
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    GeorgeB. Notable Member

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    #54
    That's a lot more work than necessary bro. Just make 1 table. Put all the articles in there and have ONE field in the table for published/unpublished.

    Then when it's time to add a new article just update the published/unpublished field so it displays to the public.

    But hey that's just me ;)
     
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    Sorry, I have already said more then I should have. Hope you understand.
     
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    #56
    Like I said, mine isn't the only way, or necessarily the right way. And if you'd care to share, I am ALWAYS open to learning other ways.

    Just seemed to me there were a lot of people here earning < $1 per day - those guys were clearly in need of some direction. I stepped up to the plate. Nothing to stop you guys making your own suggestions!

    A bunch of you have now PM'd me either thanking me or asking for suggestions - thank you all for the feedback, and I'm responding to you as fast as I can, but I have a life too so please don't get rattled if it takes me a day or so to get to you all...!

    Cheers, and have a GREAT day!
     
    creativ, Aug 22, 2005 IP
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    Your methods, seem effective, you can put up sites much faster then me and with all your scripts you seem to have everything automated which is awesome. Once your PM box slows down feel free to send me a PM and we can share some ideas maybe:) I gave you a +plus rating for your genoristy of sharing the information in that detail, more then I would have shared ;)

    Cheers
     
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    #58
    Call me naive but I like Creativ's posts. For one thing they have given me a kick in the derriere and encouraged me to focus on my own sites. I don't know if he is selling anything via PM and I don't really care. If his high point is $2,000 plus in one day he is somewhere I'd like to be.

    Of course photos of fancy house and cars aside who really knows and I won't be automating anything on my site anytime soon but Creativ is sowing seeds and if I ever have the time I'll certainly explore some of his suggestions.

    I'd like to hear Shoe's take on Creativ's advice. Not because I don't trust C but because I find Shoe's posts to be informative and believe he is in the bracket he says he is. Nothing against Creativ and more power to him for sharing his ideas.
     
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    #59
    The main technique here is Blog Spam pure and simple. Most definitely a black hat SEO trick. Blog spam has been a hot topic on blogs recently see my own postings here:

    Spam Blogs Ruining Search
    More on Spam Blogs
    Blogger Makes a Small Step Forward at Fighting Blog Spam
    SplogReporter.com Problems

    So go ahead and use these techniques if:
    1) You don't mind polluting the internet with useless junk
    2) You want to risk Google kicking you out of the AdSense program for using black hat techniques.
    3) You want to spend your time figuring out how to keep one step ahead of the search engines' spam fighting techniques
    4) You don't mind doing something a lot of people consider unethical.
     
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  20. aeiouy

    aeiouy Peon

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    I disagree.. When you start from a low point, there is little downhill room.

    :)

    Not it is not. It is as absurd as your defense of it.

    So do I imagine most people making money publishing on the internet. That is not terribly relevant. There is little reason to distinguish between participating in a thread and pm's for a discussion such as this. The only reason one would want to do that is to hide something or avoid criticism.

    Because that is not how the world works? He said something and people are free to opine as they see fit. This is not the backslappers forum. Criticism and analysis of one's ideas can be much more useful than a bunch of people telling you atta boy. In fact I think there is a forum that specializes in that.


    Don't remember seeing him say that... But it is here or there.. We are talking about this specific methodology.

    Lots of variables involved for you to make that a blanket statement. Content exists in a lot of different ways. It is not necessary to run content duplication mills in order to run 100s of sites, necessarily. Regardless, he is way past using tools to improve his efficiency. He is just publishing public domain articles and hoping to trick people into his site so they will click on the ads when they find something worthwhile. Makes me proud.

    You really should read the whole thread before you go off defending him like that. That is not what he is doing.

    Maybe... I am always open to new ideas myself... I didn't really pick up anything that I would find terribly useful or worthwhile from his suggestions, but that is just me.

    Like I said, there are a lot of people who want to enter web publishing to try and make a quick buck and are not concerned with any longevity or publishing anything of value or worth. For them the advice is good... But that is not for everyone.
     
    aeiouy, Aug 22, 2005 IP