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Image alt tags.... TO MUCH???

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by calisonder, Apr 11, 2007.

  1. #1
    hey guy's

    I have about 100 images that make up one of my pages, is it benifical to put keywords in every alt tag.

    If the keywords in all of my alt tags (ie. <img src="blah.jpg" ALT="KEYWORDS") are all close to the same, such as "Ball Pythons", "Male Ball Pythons", "Ball Python Males", will this hurt me.

    thanks in advance
     
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  2. MeetHere

    MeetHere Prominent Member

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    #2
    Yes you can always put alt tags for each images...
    But dont make things looks spammy..
    If you do atleast 10 images with your targetted keywords, that will help you in SEO ( not 100 needed for SEO )
     
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  3. calisonder

    calisonder Peon

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    #3
    thanks, it's not just 100 random images, for instance, my header image is about 30 images that all fit together, to help load times.

    So what about puting title tags in my links, i know it helps, but my question is: should i use the same keywords that i did in my image alt tags, and should i limit the amount of times i do so?
     
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    #4
    Just imagine that the image is not there. What text would be the most appropriate one to place there?

    Could be a description of the image
    Could be the name of the image

    As long as the image is applicable to a photo apart from spacers backgrounds, I wouldn't consider it spamming.
     
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    uttoransen Prominent Member

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    #5
    alt tags are always recomended. every image in your site must have the alt tags, it helps the search engines to put your images in the right place. try giving a good keyword and don't give the same keyword twice!:)
     
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    #6
    don't make a spamming efforts. put alt tags whenever necessary. dont use alt tags in table corner etc.
     
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    #7
    Use a variety of names in the alt tags. Don't make them all the same either. If you're trying to optimize for one phrase, mix them up in different combinations and you should be fine.
     
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  8. coolguy27

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    #8
    Put alt tags to all your images. But use different keywords for each alt tag. Don't over use keywords that will make it spammy.....use related or synonym keywords. And scatter your images all over your different pages.. don't put many images on one page only ...'coz your loading speed will be affected. That's one reason the SE is crawling your page's loading speed....:D
     
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  9. sgorman

    sgorman Active Member

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    alt tags are not for optimisation. They are for usability and for accessibility.

    They allow users who are not able to view the image to understand what the image is trying to say.

    If you have an image of a male ball python, then you put words to that effect into the alt tag, thus: "This is a male ball python." Or "This is a male ball python from the forests of mid-Western Africa" etc etc.

    Images can also have TITLE tags. Thus: {img src="../images/male ball python shedding.png" alt="this is a male ball python from west africa shedding his skin" title="an african ball python shedding skin in his vivarium"}

    This is not spam. You are putting a good alt tag in for accessibility purposes and giving the image a title. The title, if presented, comes up as a tool tip under the mouse.
     
    sgorman, Apr 12, 2007 IP
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    #10
    Alt tags can help your site ranking. Put your alt tags to describe the images so that it won't look as keywords spamming.
     
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    designcode Well-Known Member

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    #11
    If you don't have alt attribute for each image of your document, you will get warnings from W3C validation.

    Add text in alt attribute of your images, but don't add so much text, just use keywords. One or two words are enough. It will be for SEO.

    I will again say that don't write much stuff in alt attribute.
     
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  12. htmlindex

    htmlindex Prominent Member

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    If you keyword spam your alt tags, you will get penalized. I'd say put one keyword phrase in each alt tag, not a whole bunch of them in each of them.
     
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    I don't believe you should repeat the same word three times or it goes against you as far as I have been told. Correct me if i'm wrong.
     
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    try to put it sensibly where it deserves, ur header has got 30 images, not all of them would of a ball python. Make sure, ur KDI for the keywords shouldn't cross the threshold of 8 or 10. Keep it 6 which is more generally agreed upon but it changes according to the topics.

    And use trail and error method, just dont do stupid stuff (i presume u know wat keyword spamming is)
     
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    use 10 keywords in 100 images, dont try to put same keyword in all, google will take this as a spam.
     
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  16. sgorman

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    #16
    Seriously... People. ALT IS NOT FOR SEO. So describe the thing that you are showing in the picture using good, targeted words.

    http://www.nngroup.com/reports/accessibility/

    or point 5 here:
    http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20031222.html

    You cannot be punished for sticking to good site building techniques and standards. If you start taking the mickey with these things then you're going to suffer, but if you write good copy and think about good web standards and css you are going to be on the way to a good page. Then you can play with you alt tags to see what will work in your particular site (depending on your industry, layout, domain etc etc)

    Read this: http://www.seomoz.org/article/search-ranking-factors#f10 from http://www.seomoz.org/article/search-ranking-factors to see what some of the most respected (IMHO) pros think about this.
     
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    #17
    Only use alt-text on pictures that have text in them (menu, heading), or are otherwise meaningful to the content. It is not a good idea when you have an old fashioned table-based layout with a hundred pictures, to give each of those an alt-tag. Those images are for decoration, they don't mean anything.

    Do put alt-tags on the main images in there. The heading of the page should have a alt-tag. The menu-items should have (descriptive) alt-tags.
    Don't keyword stuff. These images and descriptions will be on every page - they will make the whole site look identical if you give them all the same descriptions. So stick with the important images.
     
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    I cannot at all agree. Any image that is not either an invisible stretched 1 px gif that you used to position your elements 5 years ago or a pretty publicity background image thrown onto the page using css needs alt (alternative) text. If I have images and scripts turned off, then I need to see what you wanted me to see.

    Also - for SEO - you should / would not have any text in an image - except maybe an email address, which, of course, you don't want spelt out in the alt text.
     
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    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    Here is what I believe to be the most important factors when it comes to ranking in Google Images.
     
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