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How to get backlinks from Edu and Gov domains.

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by mightyb, Mar 17, 2007.

  1. sysop

    sysop Peon

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    #21
    Unless they provides the listing for free. If not there is no way you can get a backlinks from the .gov or .edu unless your product used by them.
     
    sysop, Mar 28, 2007 IP
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    I have a question. Do you get backlinks from a forum if you just put your website link on your profile or do you have to put it in your sig and make a post?
     
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  3. fluid

    fluid Active Member

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    Just what i needed mightb, confirmation that .gov and .edu do not carry more weight than normal domains. Thx 4 the URL :)
     
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  4. sysop

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    Yup... yes you can get the backlinks. Anyway it all based on the algorithm search engine use.
     
    sysop, Mar 29, 2007 IP
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    #25
    The profile page needs to be spidered and the link needs to be a spiderable one.
     
    brk, Mar 29, 2007 IP
  6. Jasonb

    Jasonb Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for these urls buddy, iv been wanting to get a few more .edu backlinks for sometime, iv managed 1 in the last 9months :D Thanks
     
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  7. mightyb

    mightyb Banned

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    fluid, Jasonb No problem :D
     
    mightyb, Mar 29, 2007 IP
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    #28
    thanks for sharing the URLS, i'm going to give it a try.
     
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    #29
    sumbit to registered forums. My forum is allowing the main posters to put their link on the main page. And free advertising and stuff.

    The main thing to do is just browse around. It may seem endless and boring to you but it will probably be time well spent.
     
    chum112, Mar 29, 2007 IP
  10. UmbrellaTechnologies

    UmbrellaTechnologies Active Member

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    I wanted to let you know about a great linking opportunity. We are finally doing a full scale revision of an EDU site - www.adison.edu - To take on such a monumental task as making an online resource knowledgebase for students we are burdened by the need of more funds. To fill this need have added a website resource link directory to the site at: http://www.adison.edu/resources.php in the hope that giving your site an .EDU link for a donation will allow us to provide more unlimited resources for our students.

    http://www.adison.edu/site_map.php - this is a link to all directory categories

    Having an EDU link is rather rare since these sites don't often open their site to links, we have taken a different angle towards offering links; We are looking for sites that have something to offer our students, more or less a hand built resource directory appropriate for education.

    An EDU site is generally a respectable "authority site", therefore when you do get a link from an EDU, it is thought that your site is genuinely good, and that is where the strength factor comes into play. When you take a look at the google backlinks for this pr8 site: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=link:www.digits.com you will see that their most powerful links come from .EDU sites. It's a visible fact.

    We encourage you to get a link for your site and tell your friends and if you need any more assistance, let me know or give me a call.

    Preston
    719-290-5967

    Note: Matt Cutts is supposed to say .edu & .gov links dont matter or he will be responsible for you bugging all the .gov and .edu sites for a link. Be sure to look at at the digits.com backlinks and notice that .edu links do matter.
     
    UmbrellaTechnologies, Apr 6, 2007 IP
  11. mightyb

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    1) Yep it does have some links from PR7 homepage edu domains. So what? If these were .com nothing would have changed. "Their most powerful links" do come from edu because in this case the edu domains are the most powerful.

    2)
    This is the most absurd thing i have heard for a long time.
     
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  12. Edz

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    #32
    I fully agree with you MightyB
    This is indeed one of the most absurdest things i heard someone saying.

    UmbrellaTechnologies:

    It's one thing that you offer .edu links which is fine but please don't talk this type of nonsense on a forum with experienced webmasters.
     
    Edz, Apr 6, 2007 IP
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    Here is a another list from Busin3ss. Bookmark that blog as well, some good stuff there.
     
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    thanks lol
     
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    $100/year for a link in a PR0 directory, good luck buddy! I guess that's why it is completely empty.
     
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    #36

    Actually, the absurd thing was calling yourselves "experienced" webmasters.

    Keep dwelling on every word your boy Cutts says, you'll get real far in this industry! :rolleyes:

    Just for arguments sake, lets say that edu links ARE given more weight. Do you really think Matt Cutts would actually admit it?

    WAKE UP!!!


    WeBuildPages.com uses edu links as a metric on their top 10 analysis tool, AND SeoMoz.org uses them as a metric on the page strength tool. They just through that in for fun didn't they? They definitely have no clue when it comes to SEO. :rolleyes:

    Thats what I love about DP. The people that get attacked are always the ones that actually know what they are talking about.
     
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    #37
    Keep dwelling on every word your boy wbp & seom says, you'll get real far in this industry! :rolleyes:

    Just like MC has some bias the two sources you mentioned do also. They sell links (call it link building/baiting/bartering/exchanging/whatever) so it's their best interest to claim an .edu is "powerful". "We only got you two links this month but one is .edu link!". I think they are both great organizations, just wanted to point out that they are not free from bias.

    I've yet to see any evidence to support the theory that all other search related factors being equal a link on an .edu page is any more "powerful" than a link on an equivalent .com page. Have you?
     
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  18. DavidK1

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    Point well taken. However I feel my sources are less biased. Cutts is a Google employee, so therefore one should be cognizant of his loyalties.

    WBP and SeoMoz do sell, trade, barter links... but they have also achieved some great results, which I feel is why they are "net famous", not because they are link retailers.

    Good question. I have seen things that I felt would "support" that, but then a month later I would see something that would disprove it. i.e.

    I got a link from one of the sub-sub-subpages in the real estate section on tamu.edu. Next link update, it was put above a solid PR 7 news site.

    For a different site, I've seen a high PR edu link get topped by a blog post. Next update the blog post disappeared, even though the link is still there.

    Obviously there are a lot of unknown factors. Could anyone really analyze and certify "all other search related factors are equal"? I know you meant hypothetically for the purpose of illustrating your point... but I'm wondering if thats actually possible.

    I tend to believe that a lot of it has to do with that many edus were registered back in the early 80s for the VAX systems they had, but when I saw how the blackhats have torn up Google with "newer" edus on all the viagra related searches... I'm not sure what to think.

    My last comment really was more about basing what Matt Cutts says as fact. I don't know for sure either way, but I have gained a hell of a lot more insight from Jim Boykin than I have Matt Cutts. If forced to make a choice of only being able to read one of those blogs... I'd go with Boykin's every time.
     
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    What do you mean by "put above a solid PR7 Nnews site"? Are you talking about the order in which backlink results are displayed when you look them up in in Google? I'm positive (at least as much as one can be) that the order in which Google shows backlinks is in no way related to how they weight those backlinks.

    I was speaking hypothetically. I don't think anyone outside of Google could really conduct an analysis that met that criteria.

    If you look at a lot of the edu's in that result set you'll see most of them really are not that new, have all the things you would think they would to rank well, and, there are some .com's mixed high in result as well.

    Genrally speaking .edu domains from established schools have the characteristics the search engines look for when they are ranking sites. Look at this way - do you think if an established .ede permanently redirected itself to it's .com equivalent that it would lose it's "authority"? I don't.

    I'm skeptical of them all:)
     
    GuyFromChicago, May 25, 2007 IP
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  20. DavidK1

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    You are correct. Checking my sites now, that is clearly the case. I was referencing things from 6 months to 1.5 years ago. There were also only 20-40 links. It appeared to me then thats how they were ordered.

    Agreed, but I was wondering if it was physically possible. Things are always changing, so if we had all of Google's resources to make a concrete measurement, isn't it likely that the measurement would be different the next day? Even less maybe?

    Yes, I wasn't referring to the currrent results. I used those terms to experiment with blackhat late last year, and there were some 2000+ edus that had good rank. I will say that there were no .coms during that time. For the buy viagra results today, imperial.edu is #9, and that was registered in 2002. I can't believe MIT got compromised...

    Thats a great point. Solely for the purpose of debate, if I had to join the "I do" camp I would propose this theory. It might be possible that whatever authority the .edu earned was "amplified" to some degree due to it being a .edu. If it was 301'ed to a .com, the authority would pass but the "amplification" would not. Again, this is just a "what if" theory, and I have no data or real basis for it.

    As you should be. I'm skeptical by nature. However, I do feel that Boykin has given a lot of "honest" advice when it comes to understanding SEO and Google politics.
     
    DavidK1, May 25, 2007 IP