Does vbSeo Helps in Seoing ??

How could it possibly be sour grapes? I don't use vBSEO. I've never been turned down trying to purchase vBSEO. I'm not in any dispute with vBSEO over support or a refund demand. I don't have a competing product I'm trying to sell. I'm not an affiliate of any competing product. I'm making no money as a result of countering the outrageous claims made by vBSEO evangelists.

Sounds to me like you have a case of "My post makes no sense at all".

 

should i stick with Zoints?

 

No no that will cause u pain when someone pulls zoints off ur skin/body, do not stick with zoints, however,just continue using zoints on forums unless u won some lottery and now can afford expensive vbseo

 

The problem is that most forums never make a cent, or at least enough to cover their expenses. Many times people assume, "If I build it, they will come" but the reality is that fewer than 1% of all forums ever take off. The assumption with vbSEO is that if I add the $80 lease, the $149 software, it must add up to something. Again, less than 1% of forums ever make it.

Ultimately, if you can't afford vbseo, don't buy it. If you don't have a strong plan in place to great a high traffic, revenue producing forum, then don't buy it and if you are depending on vbSEO as a means to create a killer forum overnight than definitely don't buy it.

vbSEO is a tool and nothing more. Like any tool, it's only going to output as much you input so yeah, if you have a 100k post forum, have a solid plan on being able to generate at least $100 a month in revenue within the year and can afford it today, then buy vbSEO, if not which is the case with most people, then don't.

 

If some forum in my opinion already have 100K posts would they still need such tools like vBseo?

 

See http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=162960

Especially note this part from a vBulletin team member:

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1327309&postcount=48

You'll find other similar comments from other vBulletin Team members following in that thread.

 

With SEO, 100k posts will help to generate even greater web traffic from thousands of search queries.

 

Very interesting find very interesting, that like the last nail to the vBseo's coffin, enough said, aint going with vBseo now.

Cheers

 

The vB.com thread was referring to a higher number of vBulletin users with vBSEO. Since we have thousands of vBSEO users, growing rapidly each day, they are beginning to notice more and more vBSEO users.

Staff there always asks what 3rd party modifications or plugins are installed prior to helping their users troubleshoot.

However, we maintain 100% compatibility with all versions of vBulletin. There are no increased bugs due to vBSEO - only a very high number of users who now have vBSEO installed.

One of the most questioned aspects of SEO for vBulletin actually is whether mod_rewrite and static URLs provide advantages. SEO professionals know that there are clear advantages - provided you choose a professional solution. mod_rewrite and converting dynamic URLs to static is very complex. It is not a do it yourself activity.

Consider the recent case study on positive effects of static URLs by search engine watch, or comments from Google's Matt Cutts on why mod_rewrite should be used when possible.

 

We don't need an interpretation, jward. The thread speaks for itself and is quite clear.

 

Sorry vbSEO, hubris can be a horrible thing.

 

Stick with Zoints my friend. Do you really want to pay $149 for a product that MAY or MAYNOT help. There is no 100% guarantee or PROOF that it works or helps your forums. Yeah a few people have bought it and got lucky, BUT a few people bought it and got no where!

I'd say stick with zoints unless you are rich or have extra money to throw out.

Also as above, vB staff reccomends the DEFAULT SEO they have in the vB is good enough already. You don't need vBSEO, to "really" help you out, that is.. IF it does.

 

I am at an agreeing point on vBseo as of late. I have been following the current developments on a newly acquired vbulletin forum of mine.

Here is my latest post in regards to the $100 a day adsense post on vBseo
http://www.rickperry.ca/2007/08/02/living-the-dream-with-vbseo-and-my-vbulletin-forum/

While i believe vBseo does have its place, at $140 per license i personally do not and have not seen the benefits on my vbulletin forums.
My last 3 acquirements and a few builds are not running vbseo and are doing well in terms of indexing and relevance.

Read my blog, im trying to track it the best i know how, feel free to give some advice

 

I am also conducting a vBEO test. vBSEO TEST RESULTS ARTICLE

 

What is VBSEO?

 

i dont think that it will help you.

there is a better altenative, zoint . zoint is free and will NOT create unbelieveable server load like vbseo.

 

You cannot run a meaningful test of vBSEO on a single forum. Period. You need at least two new forums with everything else equivalent, including backlinks and content, and etc.

The more meaningful test is to look at the number of successful forums using the product versus those not using the product - sort of a meta analysis in vivo. And that test clearly tells us that vBSEO adds little or nothing to vBulletin forums.

 

I just used Zoints and vbseo on another forum.. and Zoints out preformed vbseo..

The only difference i found is that vbseo takes more resource power than zoints, though zoints isn't supported by anyone, where vbseo has support tech, then again.. your paying for it.. Overall Zoints is great!

PS: a new creator Nevin is creating a FREE SEO vbulletin hack, that's very much like vbseo. He's still in the beta stages, but it's going to be a good FREE solution too SEOing.

 

"Living the dream" on $100 day is the one guys claim. LOL, dream big.