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7,000 French Jews ask USA for Asylum

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Will.Spencer, Mar 22, 2007.

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    7,000 French Jews ask USA for Asylum

    (IsraelNN.com) More than 7,000 French Jews have signed a petition asking for political asylum in the United States because of anti-Semitism in France. The petition makes pointed reference to the murder of Ilan Halimi, a 23-year-old Parisian Jew who was kidnapped and tortured to death last year by an anti-Semitic gang, and says that "following the barbarous murder of a young Jew because he was Jewish, in the context of the rise in anti-Semitic acts committed by Islamic fundamentalists, numerous members of the community no longer feel safe in France."

    The petition was sent to the U.S. Congress and asks it to enact a law according French Jews refugee status.
    If the U.S. turns them down, it's almost a mirror of the events leading up to the European Jewish holocaust of the 1930s and 1940's. Can we morally allow ourselves to ignore their request?
     
    Will.Spencer, Mar 22, 2007 IP
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    iul Well-Known Member

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    #2
    wtf? a guy gets killed and you consider it to be a mirror of the holocaust? If a black guy gets killed in the US for racial reasons does it means the US is going to adopt slavery again?
     
    iul, Mar 22, 2007 IP
  3. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    Ahem. This is how it all started in Europe the last time.

    It started with one Jew and it ended with six million.

    And, officially, we didn't know about it until 1944.

    This time, we could help to stop it before it gets into seven digit numbers.
     
    Will.Spencer, Mar 22, 2007 IP
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    Phate Peon

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    What a crock of shit, how you can possibly compare today's France to the beginnings of Nazi Germany is beyond me, try doing a little research before spouting sensationalist bullshit.
     
    Phate, Mar 22, 2007 IP
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    alstar70 Peon

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    Just another example of uncontrolled immigration. Are there actually any Europeans left in Europe?
     
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  6. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    Nazi Germany had a beginning too. The anti-semetic violence in France has been increasing steadily for quite a few years now.

    It think that you should do some research into it, instead of keeping your head buried in the sand.
     
    Will.Spencer, Mar 22, 2007 IP
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    AGS Notable Member

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    Ouch! :D

    I doubt "Big Will" will take too kindly to this reply. :p :p
     
    AGS, Mar 22, 2007 IP
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    qwestcommunications Notable Member

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    So everytime someone gets killed somewhere, it should be followed with mass-movement of human beings across the world to some other location. By the way, why do these Jews ask America to accept them, why not ask Iran?
     
    qwestcommunications, Mar 22, 2007 IP
  9. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    Actually, there has been systematic violence against Jews in France for quite a few years now.

    Because we're more likely to say yes?

    Because they want to be free, not live (if they are allowed to live) as second-class citizens under Islamic law?

    Because they share similar values to the values that are held by the average American, not values held by the average Iranian?

    Because we have this big statue in one of our most important harbors that says "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

    Well, the hudded masses have just sent a request to Congress that requests only that America keep her word.

    And this is not one person saying that the violence in France has grown out of control -- this petition has seven thousand signatories who are willing to give up everything they know to relocate the the land of the free and the home of the brave in order to escape persecution in their native land.
     
    Will.Spencer, Mar 22, 2007 IP
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    qwestcommunications Notable Member

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    Are you going to accept every Zimababwean if he or she says they want to seek refuge in America because they are being beaten and even killed by Mugabe?
     
    qwestcommunications, Mar 22, 2007 IP
  11. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Some people...they make suicide bombers and terrorists victims, but when real victims come about, turn a blind eye because of their race/religion.

    Makes ya wonder...
     
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    qwestcommunications Notable Member

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    So you are valuing the lives of these French Jews more than these Zimbabweans. Why should French Jews be allowed refuge and not Zimbabweans. its a simple question that I'd like naswered. After all, aren't these Zimbabweans human beings like the French Jews?
     
    qwestcommunications, Mar 22, 2007 IP
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    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    Zimbabwe is an easier problem. If it were up to me, Mugabe would be dead.

    That's not a politically acceptable solution to the current situation in France.
     
    Will.Spencer, Mar 22, 2007 IP
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Nope. Zimbabweans are not the topic of discussion.
     
    GTech, Mar 22, 2007 IP
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    are you gwhirled in disguise??? you sure sound like him by trying to change the subject...
     
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    I have no problem with 7000 legal immigrants, especially God's chosen people. Isn't it interesting how so many regimes persecute them and how the countries that bless them are in turn blessed.

    The only problem I see is ceding countries in Europe to the Islamic movement.
     
    tbarr60, Mar 22, 2007 IP
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    In light of your recent admission, AGS, I am not surprised that you come out in antipathy towards jooooos.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    It sounds like 7000 smart people who are trying to get an easy green card.

    1) As a Frenchman and member of EU, they can move to any country in E.U. and settle there.

    2) As a Jew, they can move any time to Israel and live there.

    With all these choices available to them, they decide to wait in France (where they are supposedly in danger) and ask to immigrate to USA. :rolleyes:

    If USA is going to accept these people, shouldn't they also accept all the Jews from Iran, Iraq, Syria, Russia, different countries in Africa,....? Let's be realistic who lives in a more dangerous condition, Jews in France or Jews in Iraq? :rolleyes:
     
    gworld, Mar 22, 2007 IP
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    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    Jews in France can afford to relocate, Jews is Iraq most likely don't have that financial option.
     
    Will.Spencer, Mar 22, 2007 IP
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    So your humanity depends on the cost and only extends to rich Jews. :rolleyes:
    With all the military flights to Iraq, why not just load all the Jews in Iraq in the planes coming back and give them political refugee status in USA? ;)
     
    gworld, Mar 22, 2007 IP