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nofollow in WIkipedia has absolutely no SEO perks?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by DharmaSeo, Mar 5, 2007.

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    there has to be some seo benefits since many SE's recognize it as user edited and such widely used and upgraded..

    does anyone know if any SE makes nofollow an exception for wikipedia??

    or any other seo benefits??
     
    DharmaSeo, Mar 5, 2007 IP
  2. Notorious

    Notorious Well-Known Member

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    I see some backlinks from wikipedia in yahoo for my site.
     
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    ruby Well-Known Member

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    Its nice to see but with the ref=nofollow no PR is passed on.
     
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    You might get some traffic from the site but no page rank.
     
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    If you think about the fact that PEOPLE can still follow the link to your site, and then they could link to you from their site, there still is SEO value, but not from direct PR being passed on. Google and other search engines don't make exceptions like that. So traffic is a direct benefit, then third party linking.
     
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  6. DharmaSeo

    DharmaSeo Peon

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    #6

    but aside from the pagerank..


    does it help your SE rankings??
     
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    Yes it will help your rankings.
     
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    Only if you assume that you get traffic, and some of that traffic links to your site in turn. Otherwise it has no SEO purpose.
     
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    What makes you think that?


    I have been credited by Google for multiple rel=nofollow links on wikipedia. I get little traffic from those links. Less than 2 months after targeting a high compete keyword (which is when I inserted the wikipedia links) I came from nowhere to #14. Out of the 7 backlinks Google gives me credit for, 4 are from Wikipedia.
     
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  10. DharmaSeo

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    but is that after jan 21? thats when they implemented nofollow
     
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    Brandon Sheley Illustrious Member

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    wikipedia is just adding the nofollow attributs to All external links.
    You may see some backlinks in G and Y right now, but not after the new index. You Wont get benifits as far as PR goes from these links by then.

    They are adding these because of all the spam.
     
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  12. DavidK1

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    I started before then, but it kept getting deleted. This was my last edit before I finally convinced the guy who was deleting them, to leave them alone on talk.

    (cur) (last) 19:20, 22 January 2007 6*.**.**.** (Talk) (→External links - added back GIS and Property Tax (this is appropriate!))
    (cur) (last) 19:14, 22 January 2007 **.**.**.** (Talk) (→External links - call added back (city run information line) APPROPRIATE!)

    I guess I got lucky... This makes me want to experiment with something else. I think someone else said that it only "dilutes" PR. They believed that search engines would still follow, and if it was deemed "good", it would be counted.
     
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    oseymour Well-Known Member

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    yes it shows up in your backlink check with but no link juice is passed

    If you want to buy or sell a link purely for visitors or traffic and not for search engines, a simple method exists to do so (the nofollow attribute). Google’s stance on selling links is pretty clear and we’re pretty accurate at spotting them, both algorithmically and manually. Sites that sell links can lose their trust in search engines.

    I got that from Matt Cutts blog here

    I'm taking a wild guess here when he says not for search engines it means it doesn't pass juice
     
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    DavidK1,

    Google themselves explain that no PR will pass. It may be listed as a backlink, but you're not getting any link juice from it. There is a difference in having a backlink listed, and getting PR passed on from it.
     
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    Google says a lot of things... that doesn't make it so.

    I never said that a backlink was the same as PR. Notice I was talking about SERPS. Backlinks is what gets you serps... not PR.
     
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    if you have links from wiki , you will get targeted traffic . that's all . wiki is using nofollow that means , link from will effect nothink
     
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    there are so many different opinions on this..but wont u still get a backlink count??
     
    DharmaSeo, Mar 6, 2007 IP
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    #18
    the nofollow is one method used by the big G to detect if a site is selling links or not. In this days, more and more websites are using nofollow in their links.

    But remember one important thing, if you have many thousands of backlinks (everyone builded over time, naturally, like valuable forum posts or blog posts, not at same time) you will eventually gain a higher PR.

    I had one website that after a very good promotion over 4 months, it had 45.000 backlinks with PR0, and that site won a PR4.

    A nofollow link is like a PR0 backlink.
     
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  19. DavidK1

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    Google gives me a backlink count for it. Considering that's not the easiest thing to do these days, I believe it is foolish to say that the effect is neutral.
     
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    But will it soon all disappear?
    nofollow means that spiderbots don't follow the links. But does it really count as a backlink and does the anchor text there help?
     
    solidghost, Mar 6, 2007 IP