My 15K investment: What do you guys think? Am I Crazy or it will work?

Discussion in 'General Business' started by KingofKings, Feb 6, 2007.

  1. #1
    Hello DP'rs.


    I used to come to this site alot, but I never thought there was actually any real money in Google Adsense and SEO. So I was hanging around the money investment forums like Talkgold and MMG.

    After loosing alot of money there, I realized I have to change how i'm investing my money. So I teamed with a guy and he taught me everything he knew about SEO. We build like 10 sites, and everything went well.

    Six months later I saw some really good results. I was making about 10 bucks a day off these sites through Google Adsense.

    So I decided to invest all the money I have in my next project.
    I was going to get 5 employees to work for me, and my target was to build every month 100 sites till June.

    So that will be about 600 sites.

    So I bought 5 Cheap Computers about 400 bucks each with 17inch LCD's.
    The rest of the money i'm going to buy domains and pay the running costs.

    Here in my country everything is cheap, I rented an office for like 800 dollars.
    And My five employees are taking 800 dollars. So that means they are working for 160 bucks a month each.

    Now the problem is that June I will Run out of money, or at least my investment money is going to run out. I'm making about 300 dollars a month adsense from my old 10 sites.

    Do you think it's possible I will be able to at least cover my costs by June.

    The costs are about 2000 dollars a month.

    I know alot in SEO, and i'm reading alot on these forums. And Just like how I got my 10 sites to be making 10 dollars a day, I think I can really do this.

    Any thoughts? Any ideas, and any help please.

    Or Just tell me i'm too crazy so I can find another way to make money this 6 months.

    Because this is my last of my money, the second this 15K runs out... I'm on the streets begging :D
     
    KingofKings, Feb 6, 2007 IP
  2. gery

    gery Peon

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    #2
    Do not rely on Adsense! They can ban your account whenever they want!
     
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  3. KingofKings

    KingofKings Banned

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    #3
    If you stay with the Rules, I don't think they will ban you.

    Anyway it's not important what program I use, as long as the sites get the traffic. :)
     
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  4. drig

    drig Peon

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    #4
    Right, but its the old "putting all your eggs in one basket". You ARE relying on adsense (and other ad programs) too much. What if a competitor clicks your ads a number of times and gets your account banned? Why not use affiliate programs as well? Maybe geo YPN. Why not sell products with the sites as well (drop shipping)? Do you have a business plan? Do you have a contingency plan? Do you have a marketing plan? What does your SWOT analysis look like? Are you going to be a registered business? Have you figured in taxes, legal, and accounting costs?
     
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  5. devin

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    gery is right though. adsense is so unstable that, you can get banned anytime. you might want to think about diversifying your monetization methods. can you affiliate with offline businesses? sell someone else's products? etc..
     
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  6. KingofKings

    KingofKings Banned

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    Well I'm looking for another program so just in case something happens I can move my sites to it. But YPN is just not getting international..

    Anyway so far I have two Adsense accounts, the other one is in the name of my partner...
     
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    Codythebest Notable Member

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    #7
    I agree. Even if you follow the rules, anybody (a competitor?) can click on your ad thousands time and you're out of the picture WHATEVER YOU SAY TO ADSENSE PEOPLE...
     
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  8. ServerUnion

    ServerUnion Peon

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    quality over quantity. You have the resources to produce the work, but have not mentioned anything about promoting them. I would stop production, save your money and work on promoting your existing sites until you build a better base.

    After, work on getting 3-4 different revenue streams to stabilize your business.
     
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  9. hybridnine

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    foundation first then expansion
     
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  10. commandos

    commandos Notable Member

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    #10
    after looking at some of ur site ... just be aware ..

    i can see u use a lot of words like " playboy " , sex , nude , naked ...

    even google is showing public ads and i think this is just loose of money .
     
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  11. Sohan

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    Same. Looking at that site, the first complaint AdSense get, your gone mate.
     
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  12. netpox

    netpox Active Member

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    No its not! It depends what kind of publisher you are. If you bring adsense a lot of money they wont just ban you. They will email you first and tell you what you're doing wrong and tell you to fix it.
     
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  13. drig

    drig Peon

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    In all honestly, Id invest the $15k in 3-5 QUALITY and UNIQUE sites.
     
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    clenard Active Member

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    #14
    Honestly, your sites all look the same and they're structured the same ... they look way too spammy. I see your site getting in trouble with Adsense somewhere down the line.

    I would change colors, structures, etc. ... I mean you got like 4 links in your sig and they all look the same, which tells me you more than likely got 600 pink, spammy looking, sites?
     
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  15. w3bmaster

    w3bmaster Notable Member

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    #15
    Your crzy / this is not a long term thing for sure
     
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  16. KingofKings

    KingofKings Banned

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    #16
    True adsense about a month ago had a problem with the salma-hayek.name
    They said that there are ads near pictures. (Remember that New Rule)
    So they banned the site from the adsense program
    As you can see they banned it for the picture, I can even post the email. They didn't care about the sex and the playboy.

    Adsense says that if there is sex content they will ban the site.
    But I don't have sex content.

    The reason for the Playboy and the Sex pages are because i use overture to determine the names of my pages. It really works great for me.

    As for the SEO, one of you had a question about why don't I spend time for people to promote my site.

    Ofcourse i'm promoting my sites, first off my employees will be submitting to directories.

    Second I know something in SEO, probably you can say it's Black Hat.
    But If you use it in an smart way it's like a Turbo Kind of White SEO.

    Ofcourse some of you would laugh at me.

    But I got statistics

    Look at Salma-Hayek.Name

    Go search in Yahoo for "salma Hayek"
    YOu will see it number 9
    Go search for "Salma Hayek Nude"
    YOu will see it number 1.

    The Truth is I know a really nice trick, Salma Hayek is about 6 months only.

    Ofcourse Salma hayek is banned from google.com cuz I overdid it :D

    As for the template i'm working on a new one right now. It won't be that spammy as this one. This was one was just a test template.

    Anyway Tommorow I have a professional web designer going to start to work in my company. He's going to probably fix me a very cool template, and the other reason he is here because my partner had an idea about a week ago.

    Many people were asking him (People who own companies) If we can produce professional websites. So this is going to be our second income!

    We have about 3-4 customers on pending who are going to pay about 500-1000 Dollars each.

    So i'm trying to cover all the bases here, but the problem is I'm the kind of guy who loves to gamble. I don't like to walk the path of 100% sure.

    I mean think about it, i'm already making 300 dollars a month. I can play it safe and keep working single handed till I make about 2000 Dollars a month. Yest it will probably take me 8-10 months from now.

    But I think life is too short, and I just don't like the easy way out. :cool:
     
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  17. ServerUnion

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    The site is banned in adsense and not listed in google. I feel you are shooting yourself in the foot with your "trick".

    I dont really think you want to hear anything that we say, just want to tell everyone you have some money and are willing to take a risk.

    Remember, if you tank this company you are effecting all your clients and employees, not just your small investment.
     
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    I agree with serverunion ...

    and if you consider 300$ a big deal ...

    Anyway Good Luck with your business we just tried to help nothing else :)
     
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  19. obenix

    obenix Eats an apple a day......

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    #19
    I believe you've answered your own question. Traffic or rather, quality traffic will see you through.
    Building 600 sites may not bring you that kind of quality traffic and hence lower Adsense income. Someone above mentioned 3-5 quality sites and I tend to agree. Be focused in your niche.
    Read up about Google smart pricing if you have not already. Jennifer has a great post about how one poor converting site can affect the entire Adsense account.
    http://www.jensense.com/archives/2005/10/one_poorly_conv.html

    Good luck. :)
     
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  20. Wyla

    Wyla Well-Known Member

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    $15k to invest? Buy site that already have a steady revenue, remodel them a bit (apply your SEO skills) and watch more money flow in. Personally, If you are going to make so many sites, make them in php and at the footer get an include

    include('http://www.onedomain.com/footer.php');

    Then, you can sell a text link which will be placed on 600 various sites. Should bring in some extra income at minimal cost.
     
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