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Discussion in 'General Marketing' started by RomanticGuy, Jan 16, 2007.

  1. RomanticGuy

    RomanticGuy Active Member

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    #21
    The number of visitors was collected from my access log. The number of pageviews were counted by Adsense Tracker.

    1/16 - 11 visitors, 57 pageviews
    1/17 - 6 visitors, 30 pageviews
    1/18 - 6 visitors, 4 pageviews (Clearly some of the pageviews were missed.)

    As you can see, the traffic has been minimal. I certainly can't count on the traffic from the blogs to cover my costs and make this experiment profitable.

    I am using Yahoo Site Explorer to track my website links. Here are the number of links I have found so far:

    1/16 - Blogger entries posted
    1/17 - 4 links
    1/18 - 5 links
    1/19 - 9 links

    The links have basically been appearing based on their pagerank. Since half the bloggers had PR0 or PR1, it could be a while before all the links show up.

    Here is the ranking in Google for my keyword. I have included data for a few weeks before the test to give you a sense of where I have been with this keyword.

    Dec 25, 2006 17
    Dec 28, 2006 16
    Dec 29, 2006 16
    Dec 30, 2006 16
    Dec 31, 2006 16
    Jan 1, 2007 16
    Jan 2, 2007 12
    Jan 3, 2007 12
    Jan 4, 2007 11
    Jan 5, 2007 11
    Jan 6, 2007 11
    Jan 7, 2007 11
    Jan 8, 2007 12
    Jan 9, 2007 12
    Jan 10, 2007 13
    Jan 11, 2007 13
    Jan 12, 2007 14
    Jan 13, 2007 14
    Jan 14, 2007 15
    Jan 15, 2007 16
    Jan 16, 2007 17 (Blogger entries posted)
    Jan 17, 2007 15
    Jan 18, 2007 16
    Jan 19, 2007 11

    You may notice some improvement in my ranking today on Google. Is it related to my blog postings? I guess time will tell.

    Here are the traffic I received from this keyword:

    1/16 - Google 1, Yahoo 33
    1/17 - Google 3, Yahoo 20
    1/18 - Google 3, Yahoo 27

    I have historically ranked higher in Yahoo for this keyword.

    To summerize:

    1) Minimal traffic from the blogs.
    2) Links are showing up on Yahoo.
    3) Some improvement in my ranking for the keyword in Google, but...
    4) No improvements yet in traffic from the keyword.
     
    RomanticGuy, Jan 19, 2007 IP
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    #22
    Hi RomanticGuy, update in SERPs for your keywords usually isn't so fast. Links which you earn now usually needs 1-2 months to show some value.

    Thank you once more for detail info. It seems to me that those programs aren't worth much its money (usually), but as part of bigger link campaign (2k$+) i would use up to 20% on PeyPerPost and similar programs.
     
    mr_dean, Jan 20, 2007 IP
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    Hi RomanticGuy,

    Thanks for your detailed review..
     
    Lookout, Jan 20, 2007 IP
  4. RomanticGuy

    RomanticGuy Active Member

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    Here are the latest statistics.

    Traffic:
    1/16 - 11 visitors, 57 pageviews
    1/17 - 6 visitors, 30 pageviews
    1/18 - 6 visitors, 4 pageviews (Clearly some of the pageviews were missed.)
    1/19 - 4 visitors, 10 pageviews

    Links:
    1/16 - Blogger entries posted
    1/17 - 4 links
    1/18 - 5 links
    1/19 - 9 links
    1/20 - 10 links

    Keyword rank:
    Jan 16, 2007 17 (Blogger entries posted)
    Jan 17, 2007 15
    Jan 18, 2007 16
    Jan 19, 2007 11
    Jan 20, 2007 11

    Keyword traffic:
    1/16 - Google 1, Yahoo 33
    1/17 - Google 3, Yahoo 20
    1/18 - Google 3, Yahoo 27
    1/19 - Google 3, Yahoo 11

    Summary:
    1) Minimal traffic from the blogs.
    2) Links are showing up on Yahoo.
    3) Some improvement in my ranking for the keyword in Google, but...
    4) No improvements yet in traffic from the keyword.
     
    RomanticGuy, Jan 20, 2007 IP
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    Wow I think I have found a gold mine with this post. I love the detailed information you have written and it has got me seriously thinking about diving into the ppp on both ends. i have a general question for anyone who would like to answer. The links that you get from these blogs, are they of value ? and could push you up in the serps? My other question is the ppp only review other blogs or general websites?
     
    jdeeze, Jan 20, 2007 IP
  6. RomanticGuy

    RomanticGuy Active Member

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    Here are the latest statistics.

    Traffic:
    1/16 - 11 visitors, 57 pageviews
    1/17 - 6 visitors, 30 pageviews
    1/18 - 6 visitors, 4 pageviews (Clearly some of the pageviews were missed.)
    1/19 - 4 visitors, 10 pageviews
    1/20 - 2 visitors, 2 pageviews

    Links:
    1/16 - Blogger entries posted
    1/17 - 4 links
    1/18 - 5 links
    1/19 - 9 links
    1/20 - 10 links
    1/20 - 11 links

    Keyword rank:
    Jan 16, 2007 17 (Blogger entries posted)
    Jan 17, 2007 15
    Jan 18, 2007 16
    Jan 19, 2007 11
    Jan 20, 2007 11
    Jan 21, 2007 11

    Keyword traffic:
    1/16 - Google 1, Yahoo 33
    1/17 - Google 3, Yahoo 20
    1/18 - Google 3, Yahoo 27
    1/19 - Google 3, Yahoo 11
    1/20 - Google 2, Yahoo 12

    Summary:
    1) Minimal traffic from the blogs.
    2) Links are showing up on Yahoo.
    3) Some improvement in my ranking for the keyword in Google, but...
    4) No improvements yet in traffic from the keyword.
     
    RomanticGuy, Jan 21, 2007 IP
  7. mr_dean

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    #27
    Yahoo sees those links quite quickly which probably means they are quite nice links. For my links Yahoo don't see those quickly at all. BTW, if you get 2 visitors for position 11th for your keywords you won't get more than 20 visitors if you are 1st. Think about it.
     
    mr_dean, Jan 21, 2007 IP
  8. RomanticGuy

    RomanticGuy Active Member

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    #28
    Most of the links that have shown up so far have been the PR3, PR4 and PR5 blogs. I should state that I what I am really counting is sites linking to mine. If the bloggers followed directions (not all did), I should links to at least 2 pages on my site. A few linked to other pages, but it is a little much for me to keep track off.

    I keep forgetting to mention the number of daily searches for my keyword. Yahoo lists 132 daily searches. I am estimating from that that Google has another 264 (double Yahoo) and MSN/Live has another 66 (half Yahoo). So my guesstimate is 462 daily searches. I am currently #5 in Yahoo and probably average 25 visitors a day from that keyword. My guess is that #5 for this keyword in Google would be worth about 50 visitors.
     
    RomanticGuy, Jan 21, 2007 IP
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    #29
    Great posts, thanks for the story! Now I have some ideas for PPP and will know what I'm doing.
     
    MTbiker, Jan 21, 2007 IP
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    #30
    Google now has 6x more traffic for some keywords than Yahoo (in average). But in some countries like Japan, Yahoo is more popular.

    If you get 200 visitors daily it might mean 1000 visitors through long tail keywords and some nice money in long terms.

    Is your website poetry related? If not, in which niche do you play if it is not the secret?
     
    mr_dean, Jan 22, 2007 IP
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    I am sure the demographic of each search engine is different. My estimates are based on my understanding of the overall traffic of the search engines in relation to each other. This also reflects the ratio of my current search engine traffic.

    As of yesterday, 72% of my search engine traffic was from the US & Canada.

    Yes, the long tail is the source of most of my traffic. I get traffic from word combinations that I never would have thought of.
     
    RomanticGuy, Jan 22, 2007 IP
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    RomanticGuy Active Member

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    Here are the latest statistics.

    Traffic:
    1/16 - 11 visitors, 57 pageviews
    1/17 - 6 visitors, 30 pageviews
    1/18 - 6 visitors, 4 pageviews (Clearly some of the pageviews were missed.)
    1/19 - 4 visitors, 10 pageviews
    1/20 - 2 visitors, 2 pageviews
    1/21 - 1 visitor, 1 pageview

    Links:
    1/16 - Blogger entries posted
    1/17 - 4 links
    1/18 - 5 links
    1/19 - 9 links
    1/20 - 10 links
    1/20 - 11 links
    1/21 - 12 links

    Keyword rank:
    Jan 16, 2007 17 (Blogger entries posted)
    Jan 17, 2007 15
    Jan 18, 2007 16
    Jan 19, 2007 11
    Jan 20, 2007 11
    Jan 21, 2007 11
    Jan 22, 2007 10

    Keyword traffic:
    1/16 - Google 1, Yahoo 33
    1/17 - Google 3, Yahoo 20
    1/18 - Google 3, Yahoo 27
    1/19 - Google 3, Yahoo 11
    1/20 - Google 2, Yahoo 12
    1/21 - Google 3, Yahoo 13

    Summary:
    1) Traffic from the blogs has quickly disappeared.
    2) Links are showing up on Yahoo.
    3) Some improvement in my ranking for the keyword in Google, but...
    4) No improvements yet in traffic from the keyword.
     
    RomanticGuy, Jan 22, 2007 IP
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    #33
    Great info .. it seems there isn't much traffic from blogs. Good to note that there's some keyword improvement.

    Are you planning to continue using PPP, given your analysis?
     
    autorave, Jan 22, 2007 IP
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    I have a PR 5 blog. Would people be interested in either my review or analysis of their site?
     
    webmasterlabor.com, Jan 22, 2007 IP
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    Here are the latest statistics.

    Traffic:
    1/16 - 11 visitors, 57 pageviews
    1/17 - 6 visitors, 30 pageviews
    1/18 - 6 visitors, 4 pageviews (Clearly some of the pageviews were missed.)
    1/19 - 4 visitors, 10 pageviews
    1/20 - 2 visitors, 2 pageviews
    1/21 - 1 visitor, 1 pageview
    1/22 - 2 visitors, 2 pageview

    Links:
    1/16 - Blogger entries posted
    1/17 - 4 links
    1/18 - 5 links
    1/19 - 9 links
    1/20 - 10 links
    1/21 - 11 links
    1/22 - 12 links
    1/23 - 14 links

    Keyword rank:
    Jan 16, 2007 17 (Blogger entries posted)
    Jan 17, 2007 15
    Jan 18, 2007 16
    Jan 19, 2007 11
    Jan 20, 2007 11
    Jan 21, 2007 11
    Jan 22, 2007 10
    Jan 23, 2007 10

    Keyword traffic:
    1/16 - Google 1, Yahoo 33
    1/17 - Google 3, Yahoo 20
    1/18 - Google 3, Yahoo 27
    1/19 - Google 3, Yahoo 11
    1/20 - Google 2, Yahoo 12
    1/21 - Google 3, Yahoo 13
    1/22 - Google 5, Yahoo 15

    Summary:
    1) Traffic from the blogs has quickly disappeared.
    2) Links are showing up on Yahoo.
    3) Some improvement in my ranking for the keyword in Google, but...
    4) No overall improvements yet in traffic from the keyword.

    In a post yesterday I stated, "...I am really counting is sites linking to mine". That is not correct. I am counting the pages that are linking to me. Several pages on a blogger's site may contain the posting and thus link to my site. I apologize for the error.
     
    RomanticGuy, Jan 23, 2007 IP
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    #36
    Nice post. Thanks for sharing and please keep going.
     
    casperl, Jan 23, 2007 IP
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    Here are the latest statistics.

    Traffic:
    1/16 - 11 visitors, 57 pageviews
    1/17 - 6 visitors, 30 pageviews
    1/18 - 6 visitors, 4 pageviews (Clearly some of the pageviews were missed.)
    1/19 - 4 visitors, 10 pageviews
    1/20 - 2 visitors, 2 pageviews
    1/21 - 1 visitor, 1 pageview
    1/22 - 2 visitors, 2 pageviews
    1/23 - 3 visitors, 17 pageviews

    Links:
    1/16 - Blogger entries posted
    1/17 - 4 links
    1/18 - 5 links
    1/19 - 9 links
    1/20 - 10 links
    1/21 - 11 links
    1/22 - 12 links
    1/23 - 14 links
    1/24 - 12 links

    Keyword rank:
    Jan 16, 2007 17 (Blogger entries posted)
    Jan 17, 2007 15
    Jan 18, 2007 16
    Jan 19, 2007 11
    Jan 20, 2007 11
    Jan 21, 2007 11
    Jan 22, 2007 10
    Jan 23, 2007 10
    Jan 24, 2007 10

    Keyword traffic:
    1/16 - Google 1, Yahoo 33
    1/17 - Google 3, Yahoo 20
    1/18 - Google 3, Yahoo 27
    1/19 - Google 3, Yahoo 11
    1/20 - Google 2, Yahoo 12
    1/21 - Google 3, Yahoo 13
    1/22 - Google 5, Yahoo 15
    1/23 - Google 5, Yahoo 21

    Summary:
    1) Still a few visitors coming from the blogs.
    2) Looks like my posting may be dropping off the blog homepages.
    3) Some improvement in my ranking for the keyword in Google, but...
    4) No overall improvements yet in traffic from the keyword.
     
    RomanticGuy, Jan 24, 2007 IP
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    #38
    Am I reading your data right that you're getting 5X the traffic from Google than you got on the day your campaign launched? If so, your summary #4 doesn't seem to match that data...if anything it looks like you've gotten 5X traffic via Google, but not clear what's going on with Yahoo (looks like traffic dropped 16th-19th and has grown since). Is that accurate?
     
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    I guess I could have provided a little more historical data in terms of traffic.

    Keyword traffic:
    1/10 - Google 4, Yahoo 27, MSN 1
    1/11 - Google 1, Yahoo 34, MSN 2
    1/12 - Google 2, Yahoo 28
    1/13 - Google 3, Yahoo 16
    1/14 - Google 2, Yahoo 24
    1/15 - Google 1, Yahoo 26
    1/16 - Google 1, Yahoo 33 (Blogger entries posted)
    1/17 - Google 3, Yahoo 20
    1/18 - Google 3, Yahoo 27
    1/19 - Google 3, Yahoo 11
    1/20 - Google 2, Yahoo 12
    1/21 - Google 3, Yahoo 13
    1/22 - Google 5, Yahoo 15
    1/23 - Google 5, Yahoo 21, MSN 1

    The Google traffic isn't much more than I was receiving before. I am still ranked #5 in Yahoo, but the traffic has been a bit below normal.
     
    RomanticGuy, Jan 25, 2007 IP
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    thx for all the info - i signed up earlier today on their site but was skeptical about buying after reading your posts I bought a 10 pack - gave u a greeny
     
    crazygirl, Jan 25, 2007 IP