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This is NOT a PR Update

Discussion in 'Google' started by matt-baker, Jan 11, 2007.

  1. Old Welsh Guy

    Old Welsh Guy Notable Member

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    #61

    Please don't patronise me it is very impolite. There is no need for you to 'Correct' me either, who the hell do you think you are some sort of school teacher? I will stand corrected if I am wrong, but in this case there is NO right and wrong as it IS simple phraseology and NOT a case of right or wrong

    If you read my post that is exactly what I said, We have called it 'updating' since the days they did update where as now it updates in everflux and only the toolbar PR gets updated or brought to a later point in time.
    Americans wear Pants, we also wear pants, but we wear our pants under our trousers while you wear pants that ARE trousers.

    I really don't see why so many see the need to try and be clever.
    BOTH Export AND Update are correct as toolbar PR is updated after being exported from the internal PR.

    ALL matt Cutts was saying is that this is NOT a PR update (which anyone with a basic knowledge of Google knows) it is a PR export IE exported to the toolbar and forward facing PR measurements.

    so
    "PR has been updated" is technically incorrect

    BUT

    "PR has been updated in the toolbar" IS correct.

    Although for some strange reason some VERY anal people would rather us say
    "PR has been exported to the toolbar and is now showing an updated snapshot in time value" :)

    YES I agree that words are important, but as I said, in the previous post. People say "I am off to xerox this" would you correct them and say " actually we don't have a xerox machine we have an Olivetti but you can use that if you like"? there are times when words ARE important and times when they are not.

    In this case 'toolbar PR has been updated" is taken to mean that live pr snapshot-ed at some point between now and the last Toolbar Pr export/update, has been updated/exported again.

    ANYONE who refuses to accept that the toolbar PR has been updated is talking bollox. SURELY it has not been 'brought up to date' because it is not live, but that is not what was being said.

    The original poster was either being clever or controversial. Either way everyone who understands how google works will know what they MEAN when they SAY 'PR update'

    I hope now that I have explained it clearly enough as I SEE IT (I would not dare to speak for others). Although, some anal retentives will still want to argue that we must use the correct phrases. export to the toolbar which then becomes updated.

    Toolbar PR update YES
    PR update NO

    people just call a toolbar update a PR update because that is the only place they can see Pr.
     
    Old Welsh Guy, Jan 12, 2007 IP
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  2. patrickberry

    patrickberry Active Member

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    #62
    No patronising was intended. If you took it that way, please acceapt my apologies.

    You started the tone but heh, thats ok right?

    As I said, if you took it bad, a genuine apology. No offence was indeeded. I was simple attempting to get people onto this:

    Oh by the way, I am english, and not being superman I like to keep my pants under my trousers.
     
    patrickberry, Jan 12, 2007 IP
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    mistermix Active Member

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    #63
    I call it a PR update and will continue to do so.
     
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  4. Old Welsh Guy

    Old Welsh Guy Notable Member

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    #64
    Patrick apology runs both ways. no offence meant. I do get a bit het up though when time is spent discussing a nothing :(

    No matter how many times you tell people that toolbar Pr is not live though, they STILL don't get it LOL
     
    Old Welsh Guy, Jan 12, 2007 IP
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    mistermix Active Member

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    #65
    The pagerank indicator at www.google.com/webmasters updates more frequently than the toolbar :)
     
    mistermix, Jan 12, 2007 IP
  6. MattUK

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    #66
    Yes that's correct, sadly it doesn't give away too much information
     
    MattUK, Jan 12, 2007 IP
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    dargre Peon

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    #67
    Definetely I would not call it Pagerank Update.
    It's rather Nonsense Update.
     
    dargre, Jan 12, 2007 IP
  8. Old Welsh Guy

    Old Welsh Guy Notable Member

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    #68
    I'm outta here :D
     
    Old Welsh Guy, Jan 12, 2007 IP
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    #69
    And just to correct your correction, the Toolbar PR has not been the live PR since well before BigDaddy. A few years at least. It was as soon as they stopped updating it monthly, iirc. Before the Florida Update (Oct 2003).

    -Michael
     
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  10. Old Welsh Guy

    Old Welsh Guy Notable Member

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    #70
    It was when they moved to everflux which was March time I seem to remember
     
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    #71
    That's what I like about you, OWG. Always helping clarify things, like Brits not wearing underpants. :D
     
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    #72

    I love your posts, because you don't beat around the bush. You say what you mean and mean what you say - of course, after this post you didn't leave :confused:

    :D
     
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  13. patrickberry

    patrickberry Active Member

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    #73
    jajajajaja

    glad to see I was not the only one getting shirty reading throught drivel to TRY to find some good insightful stuff !!

    OWG out of interest on your sites were do you set the snap shot date at?
     
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  14. MattUK

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    #74
    I've got a thong ;)
     
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  15. NetMidWest

    NetMidWest Peon

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    #75
    But do you wear it? :D
     
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    patrickberry Active Member

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    #76
    oh my God!

    can someone please please please help me get the image of MAttUK in a thong out of my head.

    please ..
     
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  17. NetMidWest

    NetMidWest Peon

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    #77
    You got problems? I'm not even certain he wears 'em...

    Gee, thanks OWG. :(
     
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  18. MattUK

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    #78
    I'll have you know I cut a very dashing figure in my smalls :p

    Can we all agree that this is an update (in the sense of updated information) or I'll start posting pics ;)
     
    MattUK, Jan 12, 2007 IP
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    #79
    Don't get your panties in a bunch... it's an update! :D
     
    NetMidWest, Jan 12, 2007 IP
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    #80
    ok ok ,

    I call it an update if i have to!
     
    patrickberry, Jan 12, 2007 IP