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Discussion in 'HTML & Website Design' started by Brautigam, Dec 26, 2006.

  1. #1
    How do people make sites like these...
    http://www.aol.com/
    http://www.xbox.com/en-US/
    http://www.yahoo.com/
    with everything in the middle part of the page and whatever type of background you want?
     
    Brautigam, Dec 26, 2006 IP
  2. Brautigam

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  3. Brautigam

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    how......?
     
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    falcondriver Well-Known Member

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    html and css...
     
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  5. Dan Schulz

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    And images.
     
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    CSS is the way to go! It takes a lot of experimenting, but once you get going, you can create sites just like those.
     
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  7. Dan Schulz

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    Just don't let the likes of Yahoo! fool you into thinking that the old ways are still the "best way to do things" and you should be fine.

    If you have some HTML and CSS knowledge, you may be interested in reading Designing with Web Standards, 2nd Edition by Jeffery Zeldman.
     
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  8. Brautigam

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    Are there any good templates for CSS? How would I make my own page with CSS? Like what program would I use?
     
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    #10
    just make your site
    use a fixed width

    and then put <div align="center"> ....page.... </div>
    areound the complete coding
     
    Mr Blockeel, Dec 27, 2006 IP
  11. Josh Inno

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    As for the coding of the site, I recommend gVIM, it is open source, and thus free. It's a plain text tool designed to be used by coders, but it highlights the code, making it easier to read, and find what you are looking for.

    If you use a WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get) editor, it can insert code that isn't what you want, or keep you from figuring out exactly how you got the results. If you code in a plain text editor, your successes and failures are yours, and yours alone (unless someone else gave you some coding help, in which case give them some credit too).
     
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  12. Dan Schulz

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    Just do yourself a favor. Go to your local public library and pick up a copy of HTML, XHTML and CSS Visual Quickstart Guide, 6th Edition by Elizabeth Castro. It will teach you how to make a Web site.

    That has to be some of the worst advice I have ever seen. Fixed width sites do not work on systems with high screen resolutions and large amounts of visible browser real estate. They're called "crappy little stripes down the middle of the screen" for a reason. They also lock you into a set amount of pixels, and are VERY hard to for visitors to resize without breaking the layout, unless you literally box yourself into a corner design-wise.

    Also, align="" has been depreciated and set aside for removal from the specification. It is only valid when using either no DOCTYPE, or a Transitional DOCTYPE. You will not see it in HTML 4.01 Strict, XHTML 1.0 Strict, or even XHTML 1.1
     
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    #13
    I've never used that program before, but I also know that Notepad++ does the same thing and is also free. You should really learn to code, don't think you'll be able to make a really awesome site in FrontPage or Nvu (It's possible, but it's better to learn HTML and CSS).

    Align is depreciated? Wow, I never knew that.
     
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    Even if this is bad advice it's the only one that has even slightly answered the original question.
     
    Grand, Dec 27, 2006 IP
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    and also a big team to develop and maintain it :)
     
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  16. Josh Inno

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    I'm sorry, I think I may have misunderstood the origonal question.

    First you make your 'body' tag have whatever background you want for the sides. This can be done either in the tag (for transitional standard) or using CSS. Using CSS makes it easier to change the elements of a multi-page site, so that's what I recommend.

    You then use a central div. You specify it's width either using a set number of pixils, or with a percentage. A popular percentage seems to be 80%, but if you want more content area per page, you might try 90%. If give a choice by your boss or client, I recommend going by percentage, as this will help your page scale better.

    If you need more help on the code for this, please ask. I'm sure someone would be glad to help you.
     
    Josh Inno, Dec 28, 2006 IP
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