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The end of POPUNDER Industry [AKA Time to find a real job]

Discussion in 'Pay Per Click Advertising' started by BetaX, Nov 9, 2017.

  1. xuyzk

    xuyzk Member

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    wise , i am bypassing the classical adblockers right now , will this work for chrome upadate if my websites get filtered ? it depends on what chrome will do
     
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    PSOCK currently i am benefiting from users who are using adblockers ; the classical ones because my banner ad network give me double cpm for them
     
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    What banner network?
     
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  4. PSOCK

    PSOCK Greenhorn

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    #104
    You know forgive me for being blunt here but what you just said makes absolutely no sense.

    My understanding of what you said is your adnetwork is paying you double for users who are blocking their ads and don't even see their ads.... What kind of foolish business model is this.

    Who in their right mind would pay you to not even have their ads displayed. Are they bypassing the adblockers is this what you are pointing out they are paying double for ads displayed to adblock users via bypassing methods.

    Would also like to know the answer to this.
     
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  5. PSOCK

    PSOCK Greenhorn

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    Also on a separate note everyone is trying to pull scare tactics saying Google will delist you from their search engine, No they won't nor do they have plans to do so they only are going to block ads.

    It is not the law it is not a legal requirement to remove popups just because Google has some stupid policy on better ads and want to block ads they find competition for their monopolized adsense banner market.

    Yandex does not care about ads or the "better ads standards policy google invented".
    Nor does Bing, Yahoo, AOL, Baidu, DuckDuckGo, Ask Jeeves (If that even exists still) none do.

    And like i said previously any efforts of asking every single website on the web to run their websites and businesses at a profit loss without advertisements of any formats is never ever going to happen or work. Look at football stadiums, Tennis, Formula 1 racing etc all have advertisements and banners around the tracks and stadiums in view of cameras and all are able to exist of sponsorship and advertising, Even television has adverts through out shows and TV.

    This is not a market they can foolishly think they can shut down all forms of advertising online. As the browser market share shows when browsers try to shove things like this onto people and the websites they try to visit and use are not functioning for them they move to a browser that allows it to work As seen here by other bowsers on the market overtaking others, This will be what ends Chromes grip on the market but first we will see allot of websites NOT integrating content with ads being displayed and running anti-adblockers DIE AND SHUTDOWN, Then when we are only left with those websites who still make money by ads being displayed who are fighting against adblocking with anti-adblock and integrated content with ads displayed it will be when others Browsers get their popularity. Because those browsers may display ads but the websites they want to use function and work and their is no more competition with sites NOT running adblockers because their running costs providing content and bandwidth to users for free outweighed what they got in revenue.

    But the most important thing to keep in mind, Google Chrome does still ALLOW users to disable the adblock and opt out of blocking ads by default. (The OPT-in to view and see ads scenario to support our sites)
    And it is ONLY Chrome that will be ATTEMPTING to enforce this "better ads standards" policy no other browser on the market is doing so.

    Be sensible and smart block all forms of adblocking on any browser with Javascript and integrating content to being displayed with Javascript execution. No Javascript enabled, No ads displayed, No Javascript checks passed. The No content for you. Disable your adblocking methods and software. It is not difficult HTML5 and Javascript has onerror and onload and can run function checks or div id's iframes existing it is very easy to check if elements that should exist on your page are missing and to obfuscate your Javascript code to stop it being decompiled and read. The more obfuscated and dynamic the Javascript hiding your content with checks the more difficult and impossible adblocking is. Anti-adblockers come out ontop as successful.
     
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  6. xuyzk

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    PSOCK it is paying double for visitors who see ads while bypassing the ad blocker , i can show you screenshots
     
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    xuyzk Member

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    PSOCK how to do it ???
     
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    Joining the whole conversation flow - as Adsterra is working with popunders, we weren't simply waiting for the "end of pop ads". Our specialists have been working on possible solutions and came up with several ideas on how to bypass Google ad block, developed new popup scripts and new ad formats. The release is scheduled for the upcoming days, and our publishers can already address their personal managers for choosing new monetization strategy. Plus Adsterra team can check if your site was already noticed by Google for using popunders and build a strategy to solve all issues connected to that.

    Totally agree with those who claim that Google exploiting its monopoly and imposing its views, taking away the freedom of choice. Publishers can decide for themselves which ads to show on their own resources, same as users can decide whether to face popads in order to get the content they need, or not.
     
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  10. PSOCK

    PSOCK Greenhorn

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    #110
    What kind of traffic do you accept though, Adult, NON Adult or both. Advising your publishers to lock their content into only loading and being displayed when ads being displayed is the best way forward. Don't be so focused on only Google's adblocker, There are thousands of browsers and adblockers out there see my previous posts in this thread. UC Browser, Brave, Opera all block ads by default the rest all allow adblocking extensions Google is not the only enemy.

    Fight it on all fronts not just Google but every single browser running a adblocker and not displaying ads should not be provided our sites content for free.
     
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  11. Adsterra Network

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    We accept both

    Truth! but there's a reason to keep in mind Google in the first place, as the market share of others isn't that big, f.e. among all browsers, the share of Google Chrome is 55% (the next most popular is Safari with only 15% according to the source, so there's a huge gap).
    Surely, there are ways to avoid ad blocks on the rest of browsers, too. Google is the main focus as at the very moment it's practically the monopolist and the core of the whole deal.
    We'll see where all this fuss gonna lead, maybe you're right and this ad blocking policy would only weaken Google positions, but better be ready for every possible scenario, right?
     
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  12. PSOCK

    PSOCK Greenhorn

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    Google will allow users to disable adblock just like every browser and all users can disable their adblockers. The Javascript Anti-adblock locks and integrations of checks before displaying content will be stronger than any bypass, Because of this reason.
    They are blocking that javascript function from working. It is why advertisers like yourself should be asking and getting their publishers to assist by integrating content with ads being loaded and running anti-adblockers it is no longer down to your publishers to sit back and do nothing and expect you the advertiser to solve all their problems and dreams and be able to bypass such methods like that. It has reached the point where the advertisement companies can't bypass or handle it on their own anymore it requires publishers to also take action.

    We are all in this together publishers should help and do their part too. Their revenue is also at stake.
     
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  13. Clickaine

    Clickaine Greenhorn

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    Skim traffic is a solution.
     
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    Clickaine Greenhorn

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    There are new projects who currently works on creating a solution
     
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    #115
    Also for devs(developers) or advertisers who want to test in Chrome or other browsers with updates trying to bypass their popup blocking methods here is a useful tool I found that will help.

    http://tools.add0n.com/popup-blocker.html

    It shows you what methods are working what is not working detection methods etc based of the type of adblocker or browser you are using. It is extremely good to help you see what methods you can still use and to create / find new methods.
     
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