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President Trump Will Be President. It Has Been Foreseen..

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by WebmasterWorkforce, Sep 16, 2015.

  1. MQSS

    MQSS Active Member

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    #81
    I have seen a lot of memes on the web lately, but I didn't believe they were based on true stories. Couldn't imagine.



    Is this real life???
     
    MQSS, Mar 23, 2016 IP
  2. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #82
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    dscurlock Prominent Member

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    #83
    It does not matter which one becomes president...

    1. trump is a rich bitter old man, he is angry at the world...
    he hates immigrants, women, and anything that does not make him money.

    2. Hillary is no better then bill, and it has already been proven she cant be trusted.

    Lets keep flushing america down the toilet....
    It does not matter which one becomes president...
    In the end, we still lose, again....
     
    dscurlock, Mar 24, 2016 IP
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    jrbiz Acclaimed Member

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    #84
    Not really. What you are witnessing are paid thugs who are sent to disrupt otherwise peaceful rallies. It is a standard technique of the fascist liberals to try to shut down any free speech that interferes with their fraudulent theories and practices. So they send paid thugs to make outrageous statements, push people around, etc., all in the hopes that it tars the peaceful people who went to hear someone talk. This has been happening here for decades. Nothing new at all.
     
    jrbiz, Mar 24, 2016 IP
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #85
    I doubt leftists need to be paid. They are starry eyed true believers, as scary as any religious zealot. Check this out:


    You have a woman dressed up as the KKK, doing a Nazi salute being escorted out, getting exactly the desired effect from a Black Trump supporter. They interview the guy who got hit at the end of the video is rather telling at 2:55, where he says, "We are going to stop this[Trump], if it takes getting punched in the face, no problem".

    Check out this group of Black Lives Matters protesters targeting another black Trump supporter, basically calling him a traitor to his race for supporting Trump. They speak in unveiled racist terms, saying outright, political positions don't matter, only skin color. The KKK used to use similar terminology for white people who supported civil rights.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI9MCvK2MGs

    Of course it is. This is how the left effects political change. Violence, protests, shutting down of free speech, It's all right there in their playbook.
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    You don't see this crap at Sanders' rallies because the right doesn't play by the same set of rules. Civil discourse, free speech, etc. Perhaps its time the right adopts some of the tactics of the left.
     
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    qwikad.com Illustrious Member Affiliate Manager

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    #86
    Do you mean you feel that now or in general? If you could name a politician (not among the ones that are running right now) who would be your ideal president?
     
    qwikad.com, Mar 24, 2016 IP
  7. jrbiz

    jrbiz Acclaimed Member

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    #87
    Generally, you are right. Most of the "protesters" are the gullible sheep who think that they are changing the world, etc. However, there is usually the "unseen hand" of the professional organizers who provide transport, logistics, getting out the troops, telling them where to pull their stunts, alerting the press, etc. They would never be caught dead in the middle of the protest, but they are behind many of them.

    That said, I don't see the Right (the Makers) adopting the tactics of the Left (the Takers) because Makers understand that you cannot just destroy, tear down, fight, etc., in the hopes that someone will give you something new for free. Makers are also not threatened by ideas that do not correspond with their own. The Takers have no real plan for what happens after they disrupt or destroy a rally or an institution or a way of life, they are just assuming that they will get more free stuff if they act this way because that is all that they know. Makers actually understand that you have to consider all solutions and then pick the best one, roll up your sleeves and work hard to make it happen. As Edison said, Success is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration.
     
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #88
    It's a bit of a catch-22. I can't think of any politician who *wants* to be president who would make a good one. Our poor candidate choices are a result of our completely broken political system where polititians generally blindly vote along party lines rather than vote for what's best for the country. The politicians that *want* to be part of that system is what we are left with.
     
    digitalpoint, Mar 24, 2016 IP
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    jrbiz Acclaimed Member

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    #89
    I hear this all the time: "the political system is broken" which when further information is elicited usually comes down to: the government is not running full speed towards my pet policies that I would like to see in place. E.g., if you are a liberal and all the liberal politicians suddenly decided to "make government work" by voting with the conservatives on a range of initiatives aimed clearly against liberal beliefs, the liberal voter would not be happy that his politicians were not blindly voting by party line or political philosophy, instead of being pleased that the system is working in harmony and unity.

    The real issue with political systems comes down to the nature of humanity, itself. All politicians, being human, get into the game for selfish reasons: money, power, or both. No one, not even the local dog catcher, goes through endless campaigning, playing kissy-face with the donors, dealing with dimwitted voters, etc., for the good of mankind, despite their assertions to the contrary. Even the scant few who do go into it for altruistic reasons at first soon get completely corrupted by the power and money that follows electoral success. So, each politician is not only not voting for what is best for the country, they have little interest in voting for their party, for a cause, or for anything else like that. All they care about is voting so that they will get re-elected again so the money and power will keep flowing. The "politics" of their position is completely self-centered and unrelated to party politics, platforms, or philosophies.

    Government is a necessary evil that should not be encouraged or trusted as it is made up completely of humans and, therefore, subject to all human vices, frailties, and worse.
     
    jrbiz, Mar 24, 2016 IP
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    #90
    I am not asking you to vote against your conscience, but I am asking you to vote against the same old, same old. It's gotten us nowhere. But if you can't, you can't. I am voting against the same old, same old.
     
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #91
    Yep... totally agree. Personally, I'm interested in political parties and ideologies absolutely zero. I would love to see politicians do what's best for the country even if it doesn't benefit me personally. Personally, I think our biggest problem is the one that no political party is willing to even touch in a way that would actually come remotely close to solving the issue in the long term (debt).

    We have over $100 trillion dollars in unfunded liabilities (not just money borrowed that we owe, but money we have promised to pay in the future that there are no funds for), which is Medicare, Social Security, etc. Which means if every US taxpayer could just kick in a little more than $850,000 by the end of the week, we would be back to break even. To make matters worse, there were a lot more people born during the baby boomer era who are getting close to retirement (which will mean less work force and more social security/medicare being paid out). For example, my mom and dad both had 4 kids in each of their families, I just have 1 sibling, which is fairly common.

    The government pays close to $250 billion per year to pay the interest on money we have borrowed to "keep the lights on", and debt is going to be increasing as the workforce retires (see above). At some point the government won't have enough income to pay even the interest on what it owes.

    Political party ideologies will mean nothing if we can't borrow money to be able to give grandma her social security. It wasn't that long ago that the Soviet Union was a world super power with an economy too big and too good to fail.

    Personally, I think the voting system should be tied to the cost of whatever they are voting for. People have a disconnect between what they want and how much it costs them. You want to invade Iraq? With 122 million US taxpayers, and a cost of around $2 trillion... how much do you *really* want to invade Iraq? Please attach your check for $16,393 that will be required from all US taxpayers to do so. :)

    So yeah... got a little sidetracked there, but that's what concerns me about the country... The thing that no politician is *actually* is willing to address (even if they say they are).

    I would never vote along party lines and I would never vote for someone who was going to be best for me personally for whatever reason. I would always vote for who I thought would be best for the country as a whole even if I didn't like some of their stuff. It will be nice if someday there was an election where you didn't have to pick based on who you thought was the least bad. I do find it a little comical that Trump has done as well as he has, but at the same time I totally see why. The existing political system clearly isn't working, so politicians have no one to blame but themselves that people want something different.
     
    digitalpoint, Mar 24, 2016 IP
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    #92
    And others arent. Trump is supposed to be good because he has no filter in his mind or tongue?
     
    FemaleAdda, Mar 28, 2016 IP
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    #93
    I don't know how many times I can say it - Don't blame me, I voted for Ron Paul.

    If there was a box for 'None of the Above', I would check it - but then they might stick us with Obama for another 4 years.
     
    Matthew Sayle, Mar 28, 2016 IP
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    #94
    who
    who would you rather vote for ? from people who arent contesting?
     
    FemaleAdda, Mar 29, 2016 IP
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    #95
    I said voted, as in the past tense of vote.
     
    Matthew Sayle, Mar 29, 2016 IP
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    #96
    I am asking an entirely different question.. I asked who is your ideal candidate.. doesnt matter if he/she is contesting.. has contested before..
    If you could make someone prez, who would it be
     
    FemaleAdda, Mar 31, 2016 IP
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    And I answered that question, RON PAUL!
     
    Matthew Sayle, Mar 31, 2016 IP
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    #100
    Being diligent is fine.. checking and tracking is fine too.. but what about tactic.. what about the way the rest of the nation will feel about that..
    no body should get a free pass, but keeping people in check has to be done in some other way..
     
    FemaleAdda, Apr 4, 2016 IP