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Advice needed - PokerTutorial.net

Discussion in 'HTML & Website Design' started by IQdesigns, Apr 25, 2015.

  1. #1
    Hi guys
    I own PokerTutorial.net [domain - currently theres no website on it ]

    Im trying to figure out how to turn it into money.

    Do you think I should sell it or buy content for it and start to promote it ?

    your thoughts !

    thanks
     
    IQdesigns, Apr 25, 2015 IP
  2. billzo

    billzo Well-Known Member

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    I would go to the library and get some books on poker, skim through them real quick, and then write some tutorials for it based on what you learned from the books. If you are considering buying content, you might not have the time I guess.

    When I looked at gambling affiliate programs last year, I did notice that some of them pay really good.
     
    billzo, Apr 25, 2015 IP
  3. IQdesigns

    IQdesigns Well-Known Member

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    thanks a lot for your comment mate,

    I actually know a lot about poker and played for a few years.. so you're saying I should keep it, maybe do some SEO and monetize with affiliates ?
     
    IQdesigns, Apr 26, 2015 IP
  4. Famis

    Famis Greenhorn

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    Hey, if you are really into this you could create a video tutorials how to bleff better, where to play, what to play, and of course main basics. It's just mine idea
     
    Famis, Apr 26, 2015 IP
  5. IQdesigns

    IQdesigns Well-Known Member

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    Hi, great idea famis ! I will definitely use it ! I have already started ... here it is Poker Tutorials let me know your thoughts guys [ I still have tones of content to add, thats just the design]
     
    IQdesigns, Apr 26, 2015 IP
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    scott_r Greenhorn

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    Just an idea for something I (as a non-poker player) would like to see. Texas holdem is really hot right now. I've only played it twice and they were both in semi-drunken states. I'd love to see some tutorials aimed towards the complete beginner as to how to play the game.

    You could monetize very easily by linking up with the online casinos with affiliate programs. There aren't many sites in this niche that aren't really scammy feeling. I think if you do it well and are honest with people you might do very well.

    Best of luck!
     
    scott_r, Apr 26, 2015 IP
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    syda Well-Known Member

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    I can't see any design, just that the domain is for sale for $800. Too bad. As I play online poker quite often, would have wanted to see what you have done with the site. But good luck with the sale!
     
    syda, Apr 26, 2015 IP
  8. deathshadow

    deathshadow Acclaimed Member

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    If you had a site that actually had content presented in an accessible manner that didn't take > 12 seconds to load due to poor hosting (since it's only 30 files that's far beyond worst case), wasn't knee deep in scripttardery for nothing and sleazed out any-old-way with turdpress, you might be on to something.

    But this inaccessible hodge-podge of off the shelf technology reeking of "HTML, what's that", "CSS, what's that?", "Separation of presentation from contnet, what's that?" and "accessibility, what's that?" dooms itself to failure to the point anyone wanting to do anything with said site is dead ended.

    If you're trying for advert revenue, you have to get people in the door and keep them. Other than that there's no viable revenue stream for it which is why like most informational sites it should be viewed as an expense, not an investment. Particularly since IMHO advertising is a giant scam.

    Most of the 'make money fast with websites" nonsense falling squarely into the scam department. Informational sites like yours should at max me a $10 a month expense, and I don't really see anything viable to make it provide income of any sort; worse it's so poorly thrown together there's nothing to generate meaningful targeted traffic either.
     
    deathshadow, Apr 27, 2015 IP
  9. IQdesigns

    IQdesigns Well-Known Member

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    I haven't even started working on it rofl.. chill
     
    IQdesigns, Apr 27, 2015 IP
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    deathshadow Acclaimed Member

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    Then what exactly are you even asking?
     
    deathshadow, Apr 28, 2015 IP
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    IQdesigns Well-Known Member

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    #11
    Hi guys, please check it out and tell me what you think !
    http://pokertutorial.net :]
    Had a lot of work invested in it, I will soon create video tutorials as well !
     
    IQdesigns, Sep 21, 2015 IP
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    bluebelt91 Well-Known Member

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    I like the website.It is clear and theme is suiting the topic :)
     
    bluebelt91, Sep 22, 2015 IP
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    deathshadow Acclaimed Member

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    The background behind the logo makes the logo impossible to see, and it's size makes the text below it impossible to read -- since you've got perfectly good text on the other side I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish with that, and in general the entire header area feels like a kludge.

    The tiny thin font in the top menu is hard to read since it's non-dynamic without zooming in, but the layout breaks when zoomed. Really tall thin fonts introduce legibility issues which is why I'd avoid their use entirely. They might look pretty in photoshop to some artsy fartsy type, but the compromise usability.

    To that same end, the use of px measurement fonts across the page also hamper usability. Remember, good layouts should use dynamic fonts and be elastic. If you are declaring something like "font-size:13px" on body you've pretty well thrown accessibility out the window.

    I didn't even notice the massive social plugin crap on the side until I made the window narrower and the ATTEMPT at being responsive kicked in, it blends into the background-pattern too neatly and on smaller displays is useless since it doesn't even fit on the screen. There's a reason I usually wouldn't put anything "fixed" that's so large on a website. Between the layout issues it WILL create and the scripttardery being inaccessible rubbish, just say no.

    It was painful to watch load, and the reason is obvious; 1.1 megabytes in 51 files. That 17 files and 482k of that is scripttardery on a page that probably shouldn't even HAVE scripting from what I'm seeing? NOT GOOD. You've got more JavaScript being thrown at it than you have IMAGES. OH *** NO! At most there's no excuse for most any site that simple to be using more than ~15k of JS in one file. Same with the train wreck being called CSS on that site, given that you've got a ridiculously absurd 250k of CSS in 15 separate files -- on a WEBSITE that for the ENTIRE SITE from what I'm seeing there's NO excuse to be using more than 32k in 1 file for the functionality you have so far.

    That file count being most of why it's so slow -- handshaking. 51 files means anywhere from eight to forty seconds of overhead on first-load, when by my count I see no reason for that entire home page to be more than 144k in eight files.

    Popping the bonnet -- ah, well there's your problem... -- it's turdpress. So naturally the markup is broken gibberish, it's got endless pointless garbage all over the place, and I could spend endless time ripping it to shreds for 'tis a laundry list of how NOT to build a website.

    In one of those classic moments of If you don't know what's wrong with this:

    </head>
    <meta name="verifyownership" content="b98919ffaf2fa08301c53f5df54985dc" />
    <body class="archive category category-poker-training-programs category-8 custom-background">
        
           <!-- SUB MENU -->
            <section id="submenu-container">
                <a id="mobile-menu" href="#">Sub Menu</a>
    <nav id="submenu" class="menu-sub-container"><ul id="menu-sub" class="nav menu"><li id="menu-item-49" class="menu-item menu-item-type-post_type menu-item-object-page menu-item-49">
    Code (markup):
    ... maybe you shouldn't be making websites yet

    The markup is invalid nonsense, static style in the markup, static scripting in the markup, endless pointless separate files, gibberish use of classes, endless pointless presentational classes, elements like META in BODY that are invalid inside BODY, the META wedged between </head> and <body> when NO tags should EVER be between those, HTML 5 code bloat that serves no legitimate purpose, endless pointless DIV and SECTION tags that are completely unnecessary, clearing DIV like it's still 2003... Yeah, that's turdpress alright. Hence it wasting 46k of broken, bloated, invalid HTML on 2.6k of plaintext and a single content image -- anywhere from four to six times what should have been used for such a simple page.

    LAUNDRY list of how not to build a website and a complete disaster from a usability and accessibility standpoint -- but that's entirely typical of what I've come to expect from the choice of tools used in its construction.
     
    deathshadow, Sep 22, 2015 IP
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    Blogzandstuff Greenhorn

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    good site, background a bit loud and distracting though
     
    Blogzandstuff, Sep 26, 2015 IP
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    Cesarz Peon

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    I would say definitely keep it. Build out the site as others have previously mention. Add quality content, add a blog, quality information on poker, offer tips, etc. The goal is to make the site as authoritative as possible. This benefits your site in the eyes of your viewers as well as Google (which will reward you with potential ranking increases). Next monetize your site with poker affiliate programs.
    Alternatively you could domain park it in the meantime and make money with "type in traffic", however, you would be better served to build out the site. Better ROI in my imo.

    As for the site...the design can be better. The background is too distracting. And the logo gets lost. However the domain name is pretty good. Hope this helps.
     
    Cesarz, Oct 2, 2015 IP
  16. IQdesigns

    IQdesigns Well-Known Member

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    thanks a lot for the advice guys,
    I changed the background it looks more elegant now and doesn't disturb reading

    any SEO experts that can tell me how to build quality backlinks from good poker sites maybe? I feel like thats the only thing the site is lacking SEO wise.
     
    IQdesigns, Oct 6, 2015 IP