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Regarding this part of my reply: "The non-adult advertisers don't want to show their ads on adult sites - so the network will never show the ads on your adult site; it's so simple" - this is "childish", in your opinion. And what about forever crying about "I want to show non-adult ads on my adult site and I don't understand why CPMfun don't accept my site" - this looks more "adultish", right?

Btw, the "so simple" part was just for the other people reading this thread, not for you. I forgot to specify this, sorry
For you it is "so complicated" - and it seems it will remain very complicated, forever

 

CPMFun is scam or no???

 

No, of course not. I am receiving all my payments since almost 3 years already - so don't worry, it's not scam for sure.

 

My November, December and January payments are still pending, although I sent them like 10 messages on their contact form (no email address is provided) and also requested early payment. Still nothing!

 

the childish part of your reply was the fact that you only said your claim without providing any kind of reasonable argument cause you don't have one and don't realy know how to manage an argument like an adult. THAT was simple.

so if you want to insult my intelligence make sure that you have the ability to manage an argument like an adult and don't just add several laughing smilies for every miserable attempt of yours to talk back to me.. or mybe you just tried to make me laugh and forgot to tell me about it to?

 

Then is scam?? u.u looked good

 

No, Sebastian; stay calm, it is not scam. I don't know what happened with that guy's earnings, but I am sure it will be clarified soon.

 

For everything you "think" you know... how many brand name campaigns have you managed? No one mentioned this, either because they don't know or because they are just confused by your stupidity but allow me... There is this thing which Brand Name Advertisers look for when purchasing inventory, its called Brand Safety. If advertisers do not care about "Brand Safety" or as you would say putting non-adult ads on adult sites, then why are they spending millions of dollars to ensure brand safety? (to ensure their ads are NOT showing up in the wrong spots, ie. Brand Safe)

How are all of these people spending millions who represent the companies advertising, wrong, and you who knows nothing about this industry, right?

This is kind of like questioning why the President of the United States doesn't order hookers...umm hello, he is the president of the united states, he has a "Brand" to up hold.

The same thing applies with Ad Networks. You might think you have a great point, but you have never sold inventory directly to an advertiser, you haven't been in the industry, you really know nothing about the industry from your comments presented on this thread. There is an industry wide standard which you may or may not agree with, but you do not need to agree with it. Your approval is irrelevant, you are a spectator in this industry, you are not a participant, and your knowledge shows it. The industry standard is that brand safe campaigns are not to appear on the following verticals (categories, for those spectators who do not know what "verticals" are):

• Adult

• Alcohol

• Adware/Malware

• Hate Speech

• Illegal Downloads (Pirated content)

• Illegal Drugs

• Offensive Language

• Violence

How it works, is if a network accepts these kinds of sites, they are no longer a brand safe / mainstream safe network. All of those verts (categories) are considered - Not Brand Safe. I did not make this up, the industry did, an industry which you are not apart of, you are a spectator of, so please stop trying to toss everyone around like you know whats best for a business you have never been apart of, and if you are going to name a network at least name one people have heard of. Your point, might be valid, but its not an accepted view point in the industry, simple as that. You are not the one spending the money, or putting in the time, so you are not the one who gets a say in what goes on.

 

@screwgoogle, now you got an explanation that was detailed enough to even your "adultish" mind can understand it (hopefully). The explanation provided by @wrekoniz3 is really "so simple" - this time not only for other people, but even for you. At least it should be

Btw, my "laughing smilies" are in fact "smiling smilies"; just try to open the smilies list and see that this is the smiling one, not the laughing one. It's not my fault if the smilie looks like laughing, instead of smiling. And I am often using them on most of my other replies too - just for smiling purpose, not for laughing. But in your case yes, it was a part of laugh too - when I have read your forever cryings during 2 pages of this thread, about the same nonsense thing.

But as I already told, @wrekoniz3's professional explanation must be understandable even for your "adultish" mind - and it is without smilies, so you must like this one

 

i expected an argument in that long reply but saw nothing other than empty mumblings about "brand safety" and ridiculous comparison for why the united states president wouldn't invite hookers to the white house or go personaly to some shady brothel, like seriously?.

the people in the "ads industry"(mostly the ones who aren't from a major ads services like adsense) didn't made an academic degree on that subject or something and you realy don't need to do one in order to understand that advertisers look for traffic that is more likely to buy their product and that it. your talking about "brand" is especialy stupid when you considers all the small businesses that using ads.


the fact that most ads networks having some rules doesn't make them right, most advertisers won't realy care if their ads won't show up on some kind of websites(from porn sites to sites about soccer) so that pointless mistake of excluding porn sites from ads networks is less likely to be noticed as a mistake by those ads networks. and for the a-ads i mentioned, they mybe far from being well known but that was a good example for advertisers who directly choose to advertise non adult ads on adult sites and it says much more than your reply.

 

How many advertisers do you deal with directly? How many campaigns do you manage? How many advertisers deal with? I hear a lot of talk about what advertisers want, but how many have you actually dealt with?

And your example ad network - their inability to guarantee brand safety is probably the reason no one has ever heard of them.

 

so now you just wait to someone to talk back to me and than using it as an excuse to post more dumb comments with laughing smilies.
oh wait that is a smiling smilie? well that change everything and its means that you look less like a dumb kid who trying to paticipate in a discussion with dumb comments full of smilies cause he just have no argument or anything serious to say...

 

How can anyone take you serious, you act like you know what you are talking about, but you are spectator, and you have no clue what advertisers want. if advertisers wanted to be on porn sites then they wouldn't be investing millions of dollars to ensure brand safety (ie. Avoiding certain sites which could potentially damage their brand SUCH AS ADULT SITES). Men lie, numbers dont.

If you don't understand the importance of Brand Integrity, then you do not belong in any conversation with anyone about marketing.

The more you talk, inherently, the less you seem to know.

 

most ads network aren't well known, there is a lot of ads networks and that industry have very big "players" like adsense that takes very big part of the advertisers. and a-ads works with bitcoins instead of "real money" so you wonder why they aren't that well known? anyway the advertiser choose directly the ad units on the sites they want so it can't have anything to do with how they don't exclude porn sites

 

most advertisers don't have millions of dollars to pay for advertising from first place, and don't have enough customers or people who know about them to even talk about the concept of "brand". advertisers are buissness people who advertise for traffic that can be a potential buyers for their products, this is the main concern of everybody who advertise his product.

 

Stop running from the question. How many advertisers have you actually worked with directly? How many campaigns have you run? How many IO's have you signed? (if you even know what an IO is).

Who are you to say what advertisers want? How many have you actually worked with?

They aren't well known cause obviously no one wants to use them. Otherwise, they would be well known.

AdSense does not allow 3rd Parties such as networks to run AdSense ads on site on behalf of webmasters, AdSense is only for direct webmasters. How do I know this? I negotiated a Tier 1 AdX Partnership with Google.

Again, you are a spectator, and the more you talk, the less you inherently seem to know.

 

Wrong In Every way shape and form. $50,000,000,000 per year is spent on Digital Media Buys. Incase that many zero's confuses you, thats $50 Billion (with a B).

Again, what position are you in to talk about advertisers? What position are you in to say what advertisers want? or who they are? or what their campaign goals are?

How many direct advertisers have you worked with? How many campaigns have you managed? How many IO's have you signed? How many campaigns have you trafficked or optimized?

The major media buyers out there and the major agencies which represent the top brand name advertisers - all focus on first and foremost protecting the brand of their clients ie Brand Safety then the campaign goal, which for most brand name buyers is just brand extension and not conversions, thats why there is that thing called CPM's.

Again, more you talk, the less you seem to know.

 

first of all do you realy think that a-ads is not well known cause of they allow porn sites to advertise? if that was true why the porn sites get non adult advertisers? and how they are one of the main(if not the main) bitcoin-based advertising network? cause they are good for people who prefer to use bitcoin(that why they call themselves a-ads, anonymous ads) and can't realy compete against ads networks who use conventional money and bank accounts. the mere fact that they have some non-bitcoin related ads is an achievement in itself.


i didn't worked with advertisers but i am talking her about simple marketing logic. the advertisers follow the customers and they are affected by THEIR needs and point of view so its far from being hard to know what they want/need.

 

Hello,
I guess it will be better if you open a new thread and discuss about monetization of adult websites, brand safety etc there. This offtopic will result in nothing but deleting of our thread again.

Regards,
Mike
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