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  1. lukey372

    lukey372 Notable Member

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    #301
    Because you cannot display gaming ads or finance ads on a porn website?
    It's pretty simple to be honest, also why is it your concern?
     
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    screwgoogle Greenhorn

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    #302
    people who visits porn sites can't buy stocks? people above the age of 18 doesn't buy games?. anyway even if you completly ignore the gaming ads don't you have more ads? all the ads you have are games for young kids?...

    i thought that you are the guy from CPMfun, anyway i hope you think seriously about what you said.
     
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    lukey372 Notable Member

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    #303
    I honestly have no idea what you're on about.
    Why would you display niche related ads on a porn site?
    That would be like displaying adult ads on a gaming website it just doesn't make sense.
     
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    screwgoogle Greenhorn

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    #304
    most of the time you can't have ads that fits to the content of some site and even when there is ads that fits to the content they can't be allways on the site. most of the time ads don't fits to the site so why it can't be the same with adult site?.
    and it have nothing to do with adult ads or with adult ads on a site with a lot of minors.

    it doesn't make sense to treat people who visits porn sites as different from the rest of society. they are the same just with less minors who can't buy anything at all without their parrents.
     
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    cpmfun Well-Known Member

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    #305
    Hello,
    Not all advertisers want their ads to appear on adult websites. There's a solution for this - you can categorize the websites and ad campaigns in your network as adult and non-adult. However, constantly monitoring your publishers to display appropriate ads on their websites takes a lot of resources, and in case of violation you may need to ban the publisher and refund the advertiser. This way you lose both publishers and advertisers. It's just not worth it.
    This is why most of the networks are either adult or non-adult oriented.

    Regards,
    Mike
    CPMFun
     
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  6. screwgoogle

    screwgoogle Greenhorn

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    #306
    your whole point is based on the false assumption that in general advertisers don't want their ads on adult sites despite the fact that there is no economic/marketing logic behind it.
    there is no reason for that pornographic and non-pornographic division from the first place, that division has nothing to do with the ads nor with the advertisers themselves.
    and even if we talk about few supposed advertisers who claim that they don't want their ads on porn sites, all you need to do is to make sure that their ads wholdn't be on a site that claimed to be an adult site, why you talk about monitoring and "violations"? do you think that there is some advertiser who actualy resist that much to porn site that he actualy will stop advertise on your network just cause he got some traffic with site that posted some adult stuff? like seriously?.

    those assumption are completly surreal and not even sound serious but more like excuses for the common mistake of excluding blindly porn sites as if the audience of those sites are different and have less "quality" than the audience of the rest of the sites.

    nobody told you to post adult ads on non adult sites, but adult sites should have also non adult ads and they can give much more traffic to the advertisers site than many other sites which you will define as more "appropriate" for those ads.
     
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    cpmfun Well-Known Member

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    #307
    Hello,
    My point is not based on a false assumption but on an experience with real advertisers.
    Think about the mood of a porn website user, you know what he's looking for and you display him an ad for a cooking newsletter. Then think about the conversion rate of this ad - as conversions are all that advertisers care about.

    Regards,
    Mike
    CPMFun
     
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    screwgoogle Greenhorn

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    #308
    you are just talking about an ad that have no relation to the content of the site, this is the deal with MOST ads including those of ADsense.
    who told you that somebody that visit a site about gaming would have more interest in cooking than one that visit porn site?. you just talk as if the person who watch some porn has no other interest in life, as if he has less quality as a custuomer than a person who didn't visited a porn site(and there is almost nobody like that...).

    this is all wrong assumption and even offensive one toward anyone who visited a porn site. just think about it seriously.
     
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    cpmfun Well-Known Member

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    #309
    Hello,
    You mean it's offensive against 80% of the planet, or even more :)
    Most of web users are visiting adult websites, many of them are paying for subscriptions for these websites. They can afford it, but they aren't in the mood to buy a $9.99 cooking book at this time.
    Imagine you're in a car dealership, looking to buy a car. Then someone comes in and offers you to buy a bike from the store two blocks away. It's near, you can afford it, but you will just ignore him completely.
    It's just that simple, I feel strange explaining this and assume that you're just trolling :)

    Regards,
    Mike
    CPMFun
     
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    screwgoogle Greenhorn

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    #310
    now you assume that anyone who just visited a porn site(including completly free ones...) has just bought some premium membership or something like that, and this is just another ridiculous assumption that has nothing to do with reality and also doesn't explain why there is ads on a lot of sites that offer products or selling subscriptions.

    and what about the comparison of offering a bike to someone who just bought a car? like seriously?
    do you think that if you offer a guy who watched porn to buy a bike he will tell you "no i don't need a bike, i already have a vid of two lesbians licking each other"?... if someone is trolling her is you not me...

    you feel strange cause you didn't stoped to think about that seriously before.
     
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    cpmfun Well-Known Member

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    #311
    Hello,
    This is a pointless conversation. If you want to see how it works in real life, run a cooking (bike / skateboard / cheap TVs) campaign on an adult website, and share your results.

    You're editing your posts so the answer for this
    is Yes! Many of them. Google branding.
    Ever noticed a Coca Cola advertisement on an adult website? Can't porn visitors afford a Coca Cola? Or going to McDonalds? Companies like these are spending billions for marketing yearly so they know what they're doing.

    Regards,
    Mike
    CPMFun
     
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    screwgoogle Greenhorn

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    #312
    big companies goes for TV commercials and major sites like facebook, they won't put a small ads on some blog or other sites with that level of traffic. if you don't have real arguments don't use demagogy like that or tell me to run ads on cooking book on porn site, what about you trying to ran ads for cooking book on a gaming site? lets see how much 13 years old kids will decide to replace their moms in the kitchen thanx to your "appropriate" ads in its "appropriate" place huh?. that would be interesting.

    and why exactly that hypothetic advertiser would run away if he gets some traffic from a porn site? "google branding"? like seriously? don't just look for something to say to me. that conversations is pointless only due to the way you stick to your nonesense beliefs like a religious person.
     
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    cpmfun Well-Known Member

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    #313
    Hello,
    Big companies don't contact every website or blog, they rely on ad networks. Think about contracts.

    We're not against adult websites visitors :)), you just have to know WHEN and WHERE to advertise a product. This is not a religion, this is how things work.

    Let's not spam the thread anymore.

    Regards,
    Mike
    CPMFun
     
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    screwgoogle Greenhorn

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    #314
    not every site have a subject/content that fits to some ads, it is prefered but mostly just doesn't happen, that why most ads has nothing to do with the site itself. it has nothing to do with the fact that many ads networks follow pointless rules against adult sites or else only small group of sites could advertise anything.

    bottom line is that the traffic from porn sites isn't that different from the traffic from other sites with mostly adult people, they are all the same regular people with various interests and you can't prefer a gaming site over a porn site unless the ads is about games or something close to that.
     
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    #315
    Look man, just drop it?
    Mike has tried to best explain this and so have I. If you feel wronged go joined an adult specific network like many other people do (they just don't complain like you).
    I have been on this forums for years and I have never seen someone try and argue a point as much as you (when you're wrong).
     
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    screwgoogle Greenhorn

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    #316
    you need to give real argument before you tell somebody that he is wrong, and i didn't saw anything like that from both of you.
    if i will have to move my blog and add those adult ads i will do it but it doesn't make those arbitrary rules against porn sites any less pointless and wrong.
     
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    Why? It's porn you are legally required to be 18-21 depending on where you are from and even in some countries it's illegal to show it / watch it (go figure).
    This is why.
     
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    #318
    @screwgoogle, I don't understand why are you complaining so much and what is your problem. If a network don't want to show their ads on adult sites, they won't accept your site, never - no sense trying to convince them about your "good quality" traffic. The non-adult advertisers don't want to show their ads on adult sites - so the network will never show the ads on your adult site; it's so simple :)

    Why don't you simply show some adult ads on your adult site, like @lukey372 suggested? It would be much simple than complaining here forever, with no-sense arguments - don't you think? For example Plugrush have pretty good rates, almost as good rates as CPMfun, but it is for adult sites; show their ads on your site and stop your no-sense arguments and complains. Or make a non-adult site and show CPMfun ads there - this is an other good solution, if you prefer CPMfun, if it is on your "must have it" list :)
     
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    screwgoogle Greenhorn

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    #319
    why can't you just read the replies which you are commenting about?. i say it again, that nonesense of "non-adult advertisers don't want to show their ads on adult sites" is nothing but a baseless assumption.
    and i don't even need to bring up my personal experience with a-ads a bitcoin based ads(which pay next to nothing and its true for almost anyone who publish there) and the fact that i got non-adult advertisers to my blog despite the fact that in a-ads the advertisers choose personaly the site in which they want to advertise and despite the fact that my blog is far from being high traffic one.

    the reason why i don't even need to share my personal experience with you is because your whole assumption is based on nothing but the false and exaggerated division between adult and non adult site even when children has nothing to do with the subject.

    by the way telling someone he is wrong by treating your claim as obvious and "so simple" is just childish, like seriously if you didn't have an argument why you just post your claim with ":D" like its help your comment look as if its prove anything?.
     
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    screwgoogle Greenhorn

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    #320
    we are talking her about regular ads on adult sites, not adult ads(for adult sites) on regular sites. don't get confused.
     
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