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Charlie Hebdo: Prophet Mohamed cartoon published in first magazine edition

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by TopForum.Ir, Jan 14, 2015.

  1. MrPJH

    MrPJH Well-Known Member

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    #21
    see how many churches burnt in niger
    how many jews killed due to these publishings
     
    MrPJH, Jan 22, 2015 IP
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #22
    how is that a logical response to something that happened in another country by unrelated people.

    It's a dumb as me saying that because we have had scammers here from Pakistan that all Pakistanis are scammers.
     
    sarahk, Jan 22, 2015 IP
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #23
    In the first quote, you say the magazine is not responsible for deaths.

    In the second quote, you say the "publishings" killed jews.

    Which is it? Last time I checked, it was Muslims murdering Jews, Christians, women, children, etc, not magazine publishers.
     
    Obamanation, Jan 22, 2015 IP
  4. MrPJH

    MrPJH Well-Known Member

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    #24
    Is there any logic who burn a Book (Quran) which is totally unrelated to them
    Muhammd past away around 1500 years what is the logic of creating his cartoons
    when there is no logic to burn or cartoon there is also no logic to kill innocents
    can you believe terrorists kill Muslims saying they are supporters of west what a logic
    did you net see john carry's recent speech in UN ?
    there are no logics
    we have to work together to stop this
    recently an indian film banned in India after 600 million business banned because it was questioning on stone made Gods and preachers protested
     
    MrPJH, Jan 26, 2015 IP
  5. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #25
    Where is the logic in living according to the ideas of anyone from so long ago?
     
    sarahk, Jan 26, 2015 IP
  6. MrPJH

    MrPJH Well-Known Member

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    #26
    Esa ibne Maryam (PBUH) passed away 20 thousand years ago
    majority of the world is living with there ideas
    living with 20 thousand years old ideas people say what is the logic of living with one and half thousand old ideas ????
     
    MrPJH, Jan 30, 2015 IP
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    #27
    simple and complete answer.
     
    langau, Jan 30, 2015 IP
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #28
    I hate to disillusion you but the majority of world has never heard of him/her and the first english language site that a google of the name brings up is digitalpoint - lol, an internet marketing site when I expected wikipedia or something.
     
    sarahk, Jan 30, 2015 IP
  9. MrPJH

    MrPJH Well-Known Member

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    #29
    Ah this is because you use dp too often or you come to dp from google :)
     
    MrPJH, Jan 30, 2015 IP
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #30
    Maybe, I'd still expect wikipedia to beat a 6 year old post - methinks this fella isn't as well known as you make out.
     
    sarahk, Jan 31, 2015 IP
  11. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #31
    The earliest writing dates back only 6000 years, and the earliest written historic records date back only about 4700 years ago.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumer

    The last ice age ended only about 12,000 years ago.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_glacial_period

    You are claiming to know the details of the existence and the philosophy of someone who supposedly lived in the middle of the last ice age, 15,000 years before the creation of the first written records. If the "majority of the world" is living by the ideas of this mythical person, where did they(and you) learn of them? Digital Point?
     
    Obamanation, Feb 8, 2015 IP
  12. MrPJH

    MrPJH Well-Known Member

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    #32
    What is twenty thousand fifteen ? 2015 ?
     
    MrPJH, Feb 14, 2015 IP
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #33
    Twenty thousand fifteen is 20015.

    If you meant 2015 and were referring to Jesus (Esa ibne Maryam), there are old ideas that have stood the test of time, like "Do on to others as you would have them do on to you", and there some old ideas that are simply bad ideas, like stoning those who say gods name, killing adulterers and fornicators in gods name, etc. It just so happens that the mythical character of Jesus was not a misogynist(woman hater), but much of the bible and the Qu'ran is filled with misogyny.

    Much of what we see happening in "Islamic" countries are old ideas that are simply horrible.
     
    Obamanation, Feb 14, 2015 IP
  14. PhiladelphiaIM

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    #34
    Do you know what to do if someone insults your imaginary friend(s)? Get over it.

    I have the right to say whatever I want about christianity, islam, judaism, zoroastrianism, etc.
    You have no right to kill people because you found their words offensive. Period. PERIOD.

    Maybe you can imprison and whip people for blasphemy in Saudi Arabia and nearby nations but much of the world values the freedom of speech. Personally, I think Charlie Hebdo's comics were stupid, pseudointellectual 'creations' designed to bait people. If I recall correctly, Hebdo fired someone for a cartoon about jews (calling it 'anti-Semitic') but had no problem publishing a slew of material about muslims. While I don't see any value in what Hebdo produced, that doesn't matter at all. He has the right to publish it. You need to accept it. Maybe your religion says you can't depict your prophet, but I can depict whomever I please. You do not have the right to enforce your beliefs on me.

    The terrorists involved in the Charlie Hebdo massacre, and what happened today in København, may not be representative of the islamic community but they are representative of islam because the commands to do these things are written right in their holy scripture. Don't get me wrong: I'm not only calling out islam. Almost every other religion contains similar commands/passages in their scripture. Almost every other religion has people going out and killing in the name of their gods (check out what christians in Africa are doing to muslims there; check out what Israel is doing to the Palestinians). It's wrong when christians do it, it's wrong when jews do it, and it's wrong when muslims do it.
     
    PhiladelphiaIM, Feb 14, 2015 IP
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  15. MrPJH

    MrPJH Well-Known Member

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    #35
    i belong to where guns firing bomb blasts murders are too common
    The latest news is
    Firing and murders in denmark
    parade canceled in Germeny
    as i born in shadow of guns i wish west stay safe but if you want to feel how we feel on blasts well
     
    MrPJH, Feb 15, 2015 IP
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    #36
    But who is responsible for these in Pakistan?
     
    PhiladelphiaIM, Feb 15, 2015 IP
  17. MrPJH

    MrPJH Well-Known Member

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    #37
    Terrorists
     
    MrPJH, Feb 15, 2015 IP