Be Careful When Registering Domain Names

Discussion in 'Domain Names' started by iowadawg, Mar 17, 2014.

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  2. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    There should be a fresh start mechanism - like associating the domain with a verified google "place", being associated with good sites (all on the same analytics account, webmaster tools account, same whois info etc and that these are different from "before").
     
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    Annea Well-Known Member

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    I agree, Sarahk! I don't think it's right or fair that the domain be penalized until the end of time, especially when it changes ownership. Maybe expired domains could go through your fresh start mechanism with each new owner, or after someone takes great pains to clean up a site.
     
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    matt_62 Prominent Member

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    I am with you sarahk. Your suggestion will cover for domains that are sold etc as well as dropped. But I think in the very least, that when the domain is dropped, that any penalties are also dropped. Google should no doubt have tools that can detect domains that are no longer registered. No doubt if they have 100million sites blacklisted, it might be that 5% (or something) arent even registered (ticking time bombs for whoever registered them).

    On the other side of the scale, I have a site that now has a manual penalty. I have no idea why. I never hired someone for SEO for that site, but its banned. There is absolutely nothing that I, as the site owner, have done to cause it to be banned, as well, the site never made me anything, (not even 1cent) so unless I want to waste more time, I have no reason for mucking around trying to remove the ban. When it expires, the next sucker will have to deal with the problem. But here is something that most site owners dont realise. Your website, through no fault of your own, could end up penalized, and anyone can hire black hat SEO people to sabotage their competitors websites.
     
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    We're just in the process of bidding on some expired domains. They fit our "bricks" business perfectly. Archive.org says they're clean and the current owner suggests someone took a punt associated with their day job rather than someone who downs tools for the day and starts spamming. Street view showed a typo in their ICANN info - amazing what you can find out.

    But what if, by chance, the domain that has been used for spamming is a perfect match for a real world business and incorporates the owners initials, their country initial and their chinese birth year animal and the business person just has to have it. Or perhaps in that person's primary language what looks like a jumble to us is actually a witty play on words. It makes total sense for those real businesses to use a domain that fits their needs irrespective of it's past.

    We're in the process of releasing a slew of new domain extensions - .com domains will eventually be the landfill junk of the internet if they can't get a fresh start. What is the point of allowing ownership to be transferred, for domains to expire and be reregistered if the domain is haunted by it's past life.

    It's taken years for Google to catch on about keyword stuffing and link wheels and all the spammy stuff from the last 10 years. They have the data, they have the processing power and they have the brilliant minds that can write programs to detect bullshit. Lets hope they use it on this particular cause.
     
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    iowadawg Prominent Member

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    Matt of Bodis has said he has never ever seen a banned domain get a clean bill of health from Google. Now there may be special circumstances why that may be the case (like domainers being lazy). But I do find it slightly incredible that he has never, ever, once see a ban reversed, in his whole life. Or at least in his whole domaining experience. Which must be at least 10 years and seeing probably thousands of banned domains.

    Donny of Voodoo isn't quite so specific, but thinks you have no hope of getting a ban reversed. Probably for the same reasons as Matt. Whatever that may be.

    Even Google are saying there are some domains (how many? Could be a substantial number) which will never get their bans reversed.

    So this is something to look out for when registering or buying domains for parking or development. I've been bitten enough times myself, that I check every name I buy these days before I purchase.

    This is from HERE.
     
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    Thanks for the heads up.BTW.I am always check with google ,to know whether my domain had any shady tactics in the past.I use to buy expired domains from auctions,so that was necessary.I checked whether my domain is deindexed or not.If its,then there a pure chance for having some penalty.Tools like iwebtool or domaintool ,archive.org etc gives some idea on the domains' past.Oftentimes it is difficult to tell whether a domain name is banned in the search engine or simply penalized by the search engine.I always check the Registrar History and the drop times of every domain.And when I did the 'site:domain.com' search and it did come up with 'did not match any documents,i was making sure that,getting those domains is pretty much risky.Not only you get penalized from adsense but from google also.I don't want to kill my free organic traffic anyway.

    And there is also a talk that,the ban or penalties shouldn't affect you if the domain has expired.I am not sure about that.
     
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    There are some many ways to trick Google and so many ways Google to dump your sites. This battle will not stop in the next 1000 years. Wait for my review after these 1000 years :)
     
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    I actually bought a domain and got the previous owner's data in my webmaster tools account, kinda weird :p
    Seems like it used to be a polish fan forum for a game i used to play a lot back in the day.
     
    Helge Sverre, Mar 25, 2014 IP