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    #1 you must prove yourself that you can do the job! This is big business - over $2M and recently it was hit by latest updates (see image below).

    I am owner of popular weight loss product that sells well not only in USA, but in Netherlands, UK and Australia.

    Looking for extremely professional, dedicated and hard working person/company to help me get back on track with SEO. I will need off page and on page services. I will need modifications to existing site that's based on aspodtnetstorefront software. Someone who can create quality content, good web pages etc...

    Right now I am not capable to pay much at the beginning until we get back to our normal revenue. Start will be difficult and there will be a lot of work. Nothing like xrumer, spinners or automated crap etc... will be tolerated. Don't offer me any type of packages - done that, its garbage and link manipulation.

    Talk to me over skype, but don't waste my time. I need details on how you do work and examples.

    Contract is possible.

    This is what happen to us:

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    Can you please provide us more details about your business and targets? It will take some time before you coming to your normal positions, it looks you are suffering from heavy penalty of Panda/Penguin updates. We are ready to help you. You can visit our website http://www.topfreelance-india.com to learn more about us.
     
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    We don't recommend working for this guy. He wouldn't know what seo was if it were right in front of his face, a matter of fact he had no clue what was wrong with his site or what a Google update even was until we came along. He milked us for our knowledge and what we were worth, he expected an seo miracle in less than two weeks, after countless days of analyzing, research, and various methods of bringing his site out of being penalized from bad seo in his past, he then wanted full reports, after we gave him full reports he claimed he never got anything then he tried to take the money he paid us through paypal. After paypal looked up his history and seen that he has done this more than on one occasion and took our side, he then went to his credit card company to take his money back on services completed.

    He's now sending us emails harassing us accusing us of taking his customers information, posing as dea agents and requesting money from them. In my opinion, this guys scam did not work and he is sore about it and he wont stop. I will be contacting a moderator or an administrator on digitalpoint , id really hate to see one more person fall victim to putting in your time and effort to be either scammed or not paid in this case.

    In my experience with this guy he is very unprofessional and if you give him an ounce of information, he will come to the conclusion that he knows everything and will attempt to use that information against you.

    Move along fellow dp'ers
     
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    #4
    Nice try, let me tell you this one has no clue what he is doing, no skills at all, only bunch of automated porn sites, he tries to get people to trust, charge money and in reality drop few spam links thinking that some magic will bring something up in Google. Just bunch of talk and no results in reality. Just trying to steal money from people who work hard and trying to find good SEO person.. Stay away from this scam!
     
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    Nice try. I run adult and non adult websites and they are all ranking for thousands of terms and pay the bills every month. Highly successful if you ask me or anyone else, more than I can say about you. You are clueless. Don't make false statements, that will get you banned here.

    Don't turn it around georgiy, you are not knowledge-able in seo what so ever, that's why your sites were penalized in the first place. You expected us to pulled it out of the dumps in 2 weeks. Then after me coaching you and teaching you the ropes daily, you decided to go ahead and decide that you know seo.

    You still have no idea what makes a bad backlink or what makes a spam backlink, I clearly told you to define it to me numerous times and you couldn't. The only reason you knew your site was even penalized is because I taught you what a penalty was in google and why you got slapped with the penalty.

    You are a fake and a scammer, if you knew a thing about seo, you're sites wouldn't of been penalized by google. Don't try to twist the story around, we have a very nice SEO track record and many sites ranking for hundreds of thousands of keywords first page. We have many clients who are more than happy with our service and have letters of recommendation.

    You were told to give a minimum of 2-3 months for solid results, and that is fast for being penalized as bad as you were. Good job on taking the knowledge I taught you and trying to use it against us. That's my mistake on teaching you anything.

    Nice try. As I said fellow DP'ers, I do not suggest working with this guy. He knew what he was doing from the start, he got free work out of us then when we decided to charge more he got salty and opened a dispute in paypal. He claims we built spam backlinks but couldn't define what a spam backlink was. Such a fool. And these were just claims and accusations not factual information. This seemed to be a part of his scam so he could show it to paypal to get his money back.

    Paypal took our side on the dispute and looked into his past transaction history because we figured it wasn't the first time this guy tried to pull something like this. Low and behold they confirmed this for us, he has done this in the past. We sent in all proof, snapshots, chats and reports and won the disputes in paypal.

    Now this guy has gone to his credit card company to take the matter even further because he is a liar and a fake, he claims to have hundreds of thousands of dollars and threw in my face how he would pay me 10,000$ a month for seo(which is still cheap for the work he wanted done to 2 of his sites that were penalized and 2 other brand new sites all in competitive niches like Pharmaceuticals and class wines and adult sex toys). Anyway, paypal still has our side on the whole matter and we are fighting with his credit card company now.

    We don't appreciate your kind of people around here georgiy, there are enough scammers on here and you have to be one of the worst. I'm a reputable member on here with an outstanding seller track record along with an outstanding web development and seo track record, you need to give it up before we end up taking you to court. Unethical ways do not pay off.
     
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    Just a little extra, we didnt start work until may, heres a snapshot I took of one of his sites, if you know a thing about seo you will see his problem. But hey, since I taught him a bit about seo and schooled him, he seems to be an expert on the subject now.

    This was shared above, he's showing the drops between feb and april, we didnt not start until 2 weeks into May. Now below I will share why he had such a drop, this is what us SEO's called being slapped and penalized and I have the snapshot to prove what happened.

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    This is why he got penalized for unnatural links. If you take a further link into the actual backlinks that were built you will see the rest.

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    I will not allow you to scam one more person.
     
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    #7
    I will do that for you! These other people will not!

    My name is Alex, and I've been doing SEO for local clients and my own websites for 4 years now. I'm now moving to Digital Point for new clients, and I think you might be a great match for my services.
    I see businesses all the time like yours that just want to rank safely for the right keywords without all the stress. You can do this – The problem is there's so much garbage information about SEO available that you'll probably end up wasting a lot of time and money on worthless backlinks. I went through this too with my personal websites when I first got started.

    So here's the deal: You could hire someone from India at 5/hr to build crappy worthless backlinks for you all day. Over the next 6 months you might float up a bit in the search engines. -- OR -- You could hire me to build you strong worthwhile backlinks, get you ranked FAST, and start getting new clients to your business within weeks, which will easily pay for my services multiple times over.

    Note: I am not a large SEO firm. Large SEO firms hire college graduates who have never ranked their own websites and have no idea what they are doing. Why? Because good SEOs (people like myself) can make more on their own then working with a crappy firm. You'll end up paying more and getting less with a large firm.

    I know you're probably overwhelmed by the large number of proposals – I always am when I hire people on Digital Point. I want to make it 100% safe and easy for you to get the results you want.
    That's why I'd like to offer you a free 30-minute consultation which we can do over the phone, skype or Gmail. Absolutely no need to be sure if you're going to choose my proposal.


    We can discuss your needs, and if it seems like a good fit with my services. I can show you some of my past results and what I can do for you. We will only proceed if we both agree I can get you the rankings you want.

    PM Me for skype details
     
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    #8
    Hello guys,
    My name is Evgeniy and I have been working with Georgiy Kharchenko too. Please be careful this guy is a scammer. And I agree with Defcon1Media. After two weeks of working together everything was fine and we [I mean me with my partner] worked very hard with his main site ShopPharmacyCounter. This site has been banned by Google and we worked to clean this link profile. If you look at the site, you will see that it has many many links.

    After two weeks he asked me for some report and I have sent it to him. From Monday [I have sent him report on Friday] I was not hear anything from the guy. Please note the I'm not working in SEO for other sites. I with my partner from UK have own sites that bring a good money. Kharchenko asked us to help him and we said that we can take only 2 of 4 his sites. He said its okay and we started to work. It seems that Georgiy wanted to learn something new from the people that know SEO.

    Interesting that after 2 weeks his main keyword 'buy phentermine' was again in TOP10 of Google.com [US region], on 4th position. Very sad to have a deal with such scammers.

    I have sent him few messages but he did not reply them. As I said it was his idea to work with us because I was looking only for guest post.And I thought they guy is realible.

    Georgiy please note that I was not going to write this message if you can find few minutes to say that you stop working with us. Even if you said that everything was okay but you don't have money for that project. That would be fair.

    SO Please BE SURE GUYS.
    Have a nice day. : )
     
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    Evgeniy I don't like when people asking for more money without showing results and real reports, reports that show back links placed at quality, theme related sites, you and your partner just got fired, that's all... I know you are angry, but that's the reality. Sorry. So please do not write about me that I am some type of scam because I can do a lot worth to you. I am just being nice.... By the way, "buy phentermine" was there before you started working, it was just bouncing around. Reason why - we do HUGE PR campaign on PRWEB.com, you can't afford paying PRWEB.... Best of luck!

    I am sick of hiring people who promise you a lot, sounds smart, but in reality provide no service at all.

    My only concern is, if you can make it in SEO, why you settle for $500 per month payment from me???
     
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    Georgiy, I'm not angree. In the past we had such clients and it was one of the reason why we focused only on our own sites. Now they bring very good money.

    Georgiy, I thought I was the only person who was scammed by you. But found also this thread. As you know we are not working with clients sites and do not make SEO for other people. But you seemed very nice person and we decided to help you with your sites. I guess you remember that I said we want to be honest with you and took only 2 your sites.

    People who know SEO will understand me that you can't reach good positions in pharmacy after 2 weeks. You could just say it to me in email [I mean that you fired us] but you just ignored my messages. That shows you are not realible person.Your bigget site has many many backlinks big part of them spam. As I said to you, you have to spend more time cleaning your link profile. But you want to see results in few days. Unfortunately SEO is not making fast.

    Anyway I don't want talk to much. BTW, I did not ask you for more money, it was our agreement 50% upfront and 50% after 2 weeks.

    Hope you will find a person who can work in terms that accepted for both of you. :)
     
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    Let me quote you on something. 2 weeks. First of all, just so you know, www.ShopPharmacyCounter.com is an authority site. It's been around for several years. Our alexa rating in USA is below 400K. Seems like you did not pay attention to that.... Your report did not show ANYTHING that was done. Stop cheating. We served over 70,000 clients worldwide. Our product is by far top selling weight loss supplement in the world. Quality is better compare to everything else on the market. Now if I scammed you, why you never returned my money? You just got fired, deal with it, get some more experience not only in SEO but how not to lie to customers that you are doing something. Anyway, I am tired of this. I will only consider dedicated and hard working people who can work for me full time and earn good money. My SEO guy who works on other web sites for me makes $10K per month. I can give you he's references so he can confirm that I am "scammer"... Get some experience and stop wasting yours and my time. I earn HUGE amount of money by the way...
     
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    By the way my friend page that got indexed back for "buy phentermine" - www.shoppharmacycounter.com/t-phentermine.aspx‎ is the one you suggested to remove from the web site.....

     
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    By the way my friend page that got indexed back for "buy phentermine" - www.shoppharmacycounter.com/t-phentermine.aspx‎ is the one you suggested to remove from the web site.....

     
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    #14
    Georgiy, I don't want talk to much. Just please look at the messages in your Webmaster Tools account. It tells that your site vioaltes Google guidelines and has unnatural links. It means that some pages of your site like the homepage were penalized manually.

    If you tell that you served over 70,000 clients worldwide, it doesn't matter for Google. They just want to show high quality sites in SERP. I recommended you to pay more attention to clean link profile because if you continue to hire people only for 2 weeks, you will continue getting more and more unnatural links.

    There are many and many sites like yours that used to be very successful in the past but after all Google's algorithms they went down.

    Before we agreed a deal I showed you our sites and I think you know that we know SEO. Our sites have less than 100k Alexa.

    It was not that page because if you click the link in Google, you will be redirected to the working page that we have created.

    Have a nice day : )
     
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    Actually I hired people now who really knows what's going on. Basically ShopPharmacyCounter.com web site is dead. There no reason to continue to work on it.... At this point we built plenty of new web sites and currently getting our ranking, slowly but surely. I was looking for experienced people who are not looking for "hit and run" kind of deal.