Naked truth of SEO ?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by lm560, Feb 22, 2013.

  1. #1
    Hi guys,

    We all know about SEO. I also know very little about SEO but in recent time many blog or forum/community tell us that fancy backlink building are not working any more for google without Content/article marketing and Social media marketing are still work.

    My question is if this are not working then why people buy/sell backlink and spent lots of money for blog commenting, forum commenting etc.

    Repeat without Article/content marketing, forum posting, social book marking, social network marketing. I know those are still working...

    Thanks in advanced
     
    lm560, Feb 22, 2013 IP
  2. Alex jones

    Alex jones Member

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    you need to go with both the ways otherwise you can not get the results.
     
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  3. WebDev Solutions

    WebDev Solutions Well-Known Member

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    Diversity is key- look to obtain good quality links from various sources, whilst ensuring you vary your anchor texts considerably.

    WebDev
     
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  4. titly555

    titly555 Greenhorn

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    You are right but not almost. You have to do all thing to get result. You can do smo, sem for better result.
     
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  5. Jesse12

    Jesse12 Member

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    Hi
    As Google making change in their algorithm time to time so that we also need to change our working strategy too. So you can see in forum and blog community peoples are saying no need to work for article and other off page stuff. this is only possible if you have strong internal back link database.

    Hope you understood.
     
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  6. coloma21

    coloma21 Active Member

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    Hey there,

    Maybe you should also consider this... Just because people buy the comment blogs & forum profile backinks, doesn't meant that they know what they are doing...

    How many of them actually have a real success story where they are making around $3000/mo using those kind of backlinks? I bet you that hardly any of them do :)

    Here's my piece of advice... don't fall into the hype... use real case studies & income proof in order to help you decide what's factual, effective, and a delivers results!

    Hope that helps!
     
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  7. nvd650

    nvd650 Member

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    I was out of this forum for a long long time but recent drops in ranking forced me to come back and read what's happening in actual but sad to know all old stories that I've read a year back but still these techniques old/new are not working.... even article submissions is not giving required result... so what's the point left behind?
     
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  8. traxport121

    traxport121 Active Member

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    Content creation is at the heart of SEO, but backlinking is one of the largest factors for a site's rankings in search engine, espcially Google. So they go side by side.
     
    traxport121, Feb 24, 2013 IP
  9. budinovn

    budinovn Greenhorn

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    the red line about backlinks is that the other websites are recommended our website, that's why backlinks will increase our blog value in search enggine and increase our position for certain keywords in search engine rank.
    But bad backlink source like blasting comment in thousands blog even could risk our blogs, if we do a nice trick with blog commenting, it will help us rank well in search enggine..
    me myself never use blog commenting service that claim can give us more than 100K backlinks straight to our blog. Usually they sell it in cheap price like peanuts..

    remember.. when we give peanuts.. we will get monkeys..!!
     
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  10. Gianni Palazzo

    Gianni Palazzo Member

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    I heard something about it the other day.

    It is not about backlinks anymore, it is about the interaction( how much time a visitor spends on your site browsing from page to page) of your visitor with your site in these days.

    I am not sure if that it is true.
     
    Gianni Palazzo, Feb 24, 2013 IP
  11. ryan_uk

    ryan_uk Illustrious Member

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    #11

    It's just like, "Why do some people still believe meta keywords work when they don't?" The answer is it all comes down to motivation to educate oneself. Some people believe everything they read on a forum or in a crappy blog. They see people pushing services full of spam crap, so they believe it still works. These services follow a formula (x amount of different type of links). They don't really know what is and isn't working, just believe all are because they are services that "worked". Worked is a subjective term - the next Google update comes along and you find your site smacked around by a rabid Panda or Penguin.

    Making a link yourself? Expect at some point it will stop working. Hopefully it doesn't get you penalised, or contribute to it (it seems to be a combination of activities that result in a penalty and not just one specific thing).

    Danny Sullivan covered it well: http://searchengineland.com/link-building-means-earning-hard-links-not-easy-links-123767

    Rand Fishkin's look at it: http://www.seomoz.org/blog/the-deat...the-rebirth-of-link-earning-whiteboard-friday
     
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  12. nvd650

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    Earning hard links means to get paid links (in most of the cases)?
     
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  13. ryan_uk

    ryan_uk Illustrious Member

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    Is this an example of the problem? ("Laziness.") If you read the blog posts, you'd see it has nothing to do with paying.
     
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  14. lm560

    lm560 Peon

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    Hi Guys,
    There lot's of internet forums, blog and community are available for giving their valuable theory or advice about this. But some are supportive of backlink building, some are not.. But it's true that lots of sites are ranked very well by backlink "some are ranked with no backlink (very little) neither not have enough quality content like eCommerce site."

    It is really still mysterious. But we all belive in high quality content then how to eCommerce site getting high pr like 5-6PR in google with no Google backlink.. they have some bing backlink but not good enough, Then how they get this Page Rank. Is really have any art in REAL SEO or just a trick.

    :oops:This is my question to all of you who doing SEO and know very well about this.
    Hope i will get my answers. thanks to all
     
    lm560, Feb 25, 2013 IP
  15. xtremseller

    xtremseller Greenhorn

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    After changing the rule of Google penguin and panda we must do the all work for seo . all way now need to use for seo optimization.
     
    xtremseller, Feb 25, 2013 IP
  16. affilorama

    affilorama Active Member

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    I agree, you need to build links using various methods so you will have diverse backlinks pointing back to your site. Admittedly, I find SEO was much more easier before, but the various backlinking methods stil work. You'll just have to do most, if not all the methods, to get your site ranking.


    Hope that helps. Have a good day!
     
    affilorama, Feb 26, 2013 IP
  17. axxil

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    Im560 I'd say that realistically it's a matter of following people who appear to make sense to you and learning from your mistakes. There's a lot of garbage out there and good stuff. In order to get to the good stuff you have to be prepared to risk buying garbage. Experience will soon tell you what's what. And there's absolutely no substitute for experience, sorry.
     
    axxil, Feb 28, 2013 IP