$60,000 in 6 weeks. Follow along!

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  1. YahDude

    YahDude Active Member

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    #781
    ...you get more and more pathetic as this thread goes on...who would this alter ego of mine be? With my entire post count of what 50? Oh thats right, I have something to hide so I created another account...wait...I dont and I didnt rofl.

    on that note...i would like to say that i am THOROUGHLY impressed with the amount of interaction by the staff at SEC on their member forums, especially with how often they go out of their way to help an ignorant user with things not even relating to their service. im sure this is going to end up be considered "paid posting spam", although i have asked for no help at all from them. things work exactly as advertised, its not a miracle machine, but its very very powerful in what it does and can do.

    keep hating on it, the less the better :)


    P.S. "Ps. I am going to get you in trouble for registering under two different names though. That isn't allowed here."

    are we <10 years old? im gunna tattle on you!

    rofl, pathetic. If you ask me your 10x as pathetic as you put 18t up to be...you obviously pull $60/hour and make $20k+/month, how could you possibly have time, let alone the DESIRE to post so much, so often and so negatively on a subject you obviously HATE? Talk about someone just begging to be put into a bad mood, try finding some posts where you can make a postive addition and maybe instead of trashing them help move them along in a constructive matter? seriously...do you hate yourself?
     
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    visio Well-Known Member

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    #782
    Forgive me that was 3 accounts not 2.

    I could care less what you think I make because the fact still remains you don't know and I could careless what you think. I have nothing to prove to you yet you seem to want to prove that this software works to me.
    My income isn't on trial here eightts is.

    Ps. I consult more than one person and hour usually ;) and I also own 8 other successful sites some of which have been around since late 90's. So I don't have all my eggs in one basket for your information.
     
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    Sem-Advance Notable Member

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    And I thought I could stir up some shit ....phewww .......

    :D
     
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  4. YahDude

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    I don't know where you get your information...I have one account here at these forums...seriously. lol.

    I don't care how much you make either, I'm just trying to understand how/why you have so much time to spend berating somebody else's hard work.

    I HOPE EVERYONE READING THIS THREAD WILL THINK ABOUT WHAT IM ABOUT TO SAY...

    what you are doing here is no different than standing outside of a retail store telling everyone going inside to either collect information or make a purchase that the product inside is complete trash and the people selling it are as well. especially considering you are a competitor to this person. I fully understand as well that this is an open forum where people can speak on/about/however they please...but it seems pretty unethical to me...then again so is the whole black hat seo deal...

    so i ask you this...are you using black hat tactics to get back at the black hatters? wouldn't that bring you down their, dare I say it? black hat level?

    food for thought. continue your thread crapping, its fun :)

    by the way, i have no need to prove to you the software works...if it didn't you would have plenty of posters in this thread stating that it doesn't. YOU have proved all the haters wrong by keeping this thread alive...if it didn't work this thread would be full of people stating that...instead they are all over on his forums talking about you lol.

    "Ps. I consult more than one person and hour usually ;) and I also own 8 other successful sites some of which have been around since late 90's. So I don't have all my eggs in one basket for your information."

    Your penis > mine...you've made that quite obvious. You sir are teh winnar. Once again, now that you are making $100+/hour...WHY DO YOU CONTINUE TO WASTE YOUR OWN, AS WELL AS EVERYONE ELSE'S TIME WITH YOUR MINDLESS BANTER?

    btw, mr SEO master...how did I do emphasizing my key points and getting my point across to my readers without losing their interest? My keyword density good? I know my headline could use some work too...any free tips? I love how you tell us you charge people $50/hour for information that is completely and utterly free anywhere they look. Ironic.

    disclaimer: I like pie.
     
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  5. visio

    visio Well-Known Member

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    #785

    Ha I don't see anyone on the forums talking about me. :rolleyes:


    ohh now i give away my products :rolleyes:


    TBTH I skipped through most of it. Kind of hard to read....
     
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    Now we are talking. How many hours would you have to bill for me to make 60,000/month. Will the earnings stick, even after your contract is over (will the traffic remain).
    I think I might start saving for this :)
     
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  7. YahDude

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    haha, if anyone here thought his claims were anywhere near that he would be inundated with work...and i would be first in line with a check for the next 6 months pre paid.
     
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    $69/hour x 24 hours a day = $1656
    $1656 x 7 days = $11592
    $11592 x 4 weeks = $46368 (your monthly bill)


    $60,000.00
    - $46,368.00
    = $13,632.00 (my dividend from the consultation...along with the knowledge to do the same).


    No joke. You're hired. 24 hours a day for a month based on you fulfilling your quota ($60,000).
    This will obviously benefit you since its not based on a normal 40 hour work week.
    Bill me at the end of the month.

    I accept emails for the instructional "paid consultations" so I can learn and benefit from your experience. Want to teach EXACTLY what to do? Then do so.

    I also accept for my remaining investment dividend to paypal if requested (you may deduct the paypal fees as well).


    Sorry cannot do pre-pay unless a notarized, written statement for services to be rendered (must be itemized) is provided by you (it should reflect the math above), and a contractual agreement written by my attorneys for "Your Services Provided" .... For your protection as well as my own of course.

    I am sure you will want a non-disclosure as well. This is acceptable. Send a message to me here when your consultation calendar clears.


    Cheers.
     
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    Really? Now who's selling snake oil? ;)

    I believe you suggested that 1EightT's system couldn't work or he wouldn't be selling it.
    Well, you so rich, boy, how come you sellin' yoself like a street corner hooker?

    You DEMAND that 1EightT prove everything. If he posted a screenshot you would say that it is a photoshopped lie. You want to see his sites. (Duh! like you can see a cloaked site) You want his accounts.

    Well here is the score so far:
    A number of people from here have taken up his offer. They ALL say it a good deal and they are happy and starting to make money. NO ONE has said it is a rip off.

    For $69 a MONTH he offered, a system, software, unlimited help and HOSTING SPACE.

    He says (more or less) "Host as many sites as you like on my servers. When you are making good money get your own private server and I will move your sites for you"
    How fair is that?

    That is what he offered for $69 a month. What are you offering for your $50 an HOUR?

    Ok, let's say I am interested. PROVE that you can get me making $60,000 a month. How many hours of your time will it cost me?

    I want the names addresses and phone numbers of people you have already helped to make $60,000 a month.

    I am serious here. I would like to make $60,000 a month. I really would and I really would pay you.

    So now it is your turn. Put up or shut up.
    Let's see YOUR figures, websites and customers.

    Unless you are just full of hot air.
     
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    sounds v. interesting good luck in it
     
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    #791
    it's been 20 days!
    How is the report?
     
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    Now the thread turned into the different direction, oh well, can't say that i don't like it or else i would lie.

    Now i give this thread to the ones that can express their feelings in english, much better than i do, to give visio what he deserves. Since he showed now, who of the two really lies.

    It's no BH/WH thing, that's what i said from the beginning, Visio is only jelous or he just hates 1Eight.

    And now i sit back, relaxing with popcorn, waiting for the real secret of making $60K a month with just spending $49.99/hour, yihaaaa.

    OH forgot: I would pay you too visio, 60K for $49/hour seems pretty fair to me (and this is dead serious now). So, alone with the people in this thread here you could retire, just working for us and we're all happy, who knows, maybe i then see how evil BH is?
     
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    Where is Mr. 1Eight?
     
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  14. visio

    visio Well-Known Member

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    It depends greatly on the site how long it will take to consult on the development of the site. And yes the traffic/rankings and money only keep building as long as you follow the methods.

    Sorry but I wouldn't be able to accept. I am not in the habit of darkening my reputation by doing seo for BH spammers. only totally ethical White Hat sites.


    I don't contact the client. The client contacts me if they have any real interest. I have no interest in helping you get rich however that is usually a side-effect. I am interested in helping you create a successful business.



    What you make is totally up to you. If your interested in starting a successful business that helps people contact me. If your interested in making $60,000/month get lost. The ones only out for the money don't make it in the WH industry. And sorry but I don't give out names of clients on an open forum.


    Your a BH and I don't do business with them. Also that was $69/hour and I don't consult you the whole day/week and month. I have other sites that I have to manage.


    I want to mention something to. I am not doing this as advertising which is what it may look like. I don't need clients and actually have to cancel alot of requests I get. However this guy is a spammer so why can't I just kind of spam and idea here. In one day with a totally new site I made $70 CJ commission. This was totally White Hat as well. It took 1eight over a week didn't it? I am not trying to prove anything to the doubters here. I do not want BLACK HAT CLIENTS. I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. All I am is offering a ethical solution to making good money and helping people at the same time. Those that are subscribed to my blog, who have been helped by most posts. You know what kind of guy I am. If this was any kind of normal service I would not be posting negatively in here. If this guy was anything but a spammer I would leave him alone. Cheap-Seo-Services guy here at DP would be considered a big competitor to me especially as from what I hear his services are far cheaper than mine however I respect him and have never interfered in one of his services here. He is a honest guy from what I hear and I greatly respect that. We need people who care about OTHER PEOPLE and not just money. Money buys everything but people(even some people can be bought by money). What do you want? To make a million bucks or make $100,000/year and be happy? I would live for $45,000/year if I knew that was the only way to be happy. And now I am done.

    I just wanted everyone to know I am not bashing a guy but bringing to light what this guy is doing. This is not right. There used to be a time when you could goto jail for spamming peoples mailbox.

    okay I said I was done.

    Ohh btw a BIG THANKS to the two morons who stole SEM-Advances comment to RED REP me. Actions like that show what kind of crud grows out of a spam thread.
     
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    It's spelled "YOU'RE"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Thanks :D
     
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    Tings are slo wahen URINE huntin for spellin misteakes

    :D both of these apply :eek:
     
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    lol, you got me!
     
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    After reviewing what I wrote, I thought I was initiating contact with sincere interest. I also understood the fact you would be swamped with other projects and thus did not mind waiting in a "queue" of sorts until your calendar could squeeze me in. Please do not infer that "I" did not make contact with you "first". Its wrong considering I am:

    1) new to this site
    2) not new to business ventures (thats new news for you)
    3) did not label you (or your statements) directly or indirectly as anything deceiving or unethical.

    Furthermore, I also was quite clear that I wanted to learn...or rather, for you to teach (after all, it is a consultation and not simply a price for web design services). I even offered other means of communication in my "initial" contact with you by saying email or paypal was acceptable. I certainly wouldnt want you to be tied up on a phone and not sitting at the computer.

    I made absolutetly no reference to you being freelanced in other ways. You say you teach? Well apparently you do. Unfortunately the course is on lessons of "How to avoid Pathological Consultants" .... Thank you for giving me an idea for an e-book for which you might be lucky to receive cliff note references (links to subcriptions removed of course).


    Let us not ignore the Fact you stated earlier:
    Let's review.
    Visio~I am not doing this as advertising which is what it may look like.

    Your own Counterdictions
    ~"My fee is $69/hour but I can make you more than 60,000/month in no time"
    ~If your interested in starting a successful business that helps people contact me
    ~I am interested in helping you create a successful business.

    Which of course leads to the pressing Statement / Counterdiction:
    Visio~ My fee is $69/hour but I can make you more than 60,000/month in no time

    You own Counterdiction
    ~If your interested in making $60,000/month get lost


    And just some other statements to consider:
    ~I have no interest in helping you get rich however that is usually a side-effect.
    ~I am interested in helping you create a successful business.
    ~If your interested in starting a successful business that helps people contact me




    The end result is that yes, in a mild way, you did offer to consult (that's interacting) with people who contact you first. Based on you replying to me, that supports this requirement. You made a statement that you would have the ability to achieve successful income and that you consult to show others how to do this. You even provided a benchmark number as an example.

    However, when people take you up on the offer you decide that they will be doing things in a "BH" way and thus you will not take them as clients -nor provide education to them in order to do things the "right way" (WH).

    Since ANY efforts would be based on YOUR consultation or action, which you "claim" to be WH in nature, its unclear to me how you can support your statements that clients would be using BH tactics.

    Thus:
    You obviously label clients you do not even know as BH, or are in it for the money it (since they will all be using BH activity.).
    Well,....if all clients like me who wanted to learn the RIGHT way of doing things are labeled as BH, that would mean your activity is BH in nature.


    Whether you agree with the ethics on 1EightT or not (and I havent subscribed), one thing for sure is that he has shown a clearer and more logically explained set of examples than you have.
    A simple one would be for readers here to take into consideration that the 69/month includes the hosting and such for all their domains. Not a bad price BY ITSELF in some cases.


    You only offer insults on the reasoning, sincerity, ability, and experience/education for those who would question your word. In fact, I cannot really find much reference to anything you have said in the last few pages that would indicate you are being truly helpful to others. If by preaching "WH" is the only way to enlightenment, Its apparently blinded you as to who is really asking to be "saved" from the diabolical clutches of BH activity.

    Preach on brother (but please at least provide scripture verses so that we can read it for ourselves).



    Have a great weekend :)
     
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    LOL, owned, like we BH's would say :rolleyes:

    GREAT post, great lookup and comparison to what people have said and done.

    I still laugh my *** off, with tears in my eyes. :)

    If i could, i would give you all my green rep points for this one posts man.
     
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    I really have to apologize for that. You are new to DP and I should have been more polite. I give you my sincere apology.

    I did not contradict myself. I said I canmake you $60,000 but if that is the motive behind hiring me I don't want you as a client because in that case I couldn't. Let me explain. Everyone likes money. Sure it is nice to have but if that is the reason you start a site it will fail. I have seen this happen before. You got to be willing to not make any money before you can make good money. Your interest has to be in the site not the money your going to make.

    I didn't make the statement to get clients I made the statement as a statement stating that a white hat seo can easily make anything or more than a BH seo and i'll wager more.

    I have seen sites fail because they were founded on a niche that was supposed to have high-paying adsense keywords.

    Again everyone wants money and it is okay to want to start a site to make money but there has to be other reasons or it will fail. Believe me it will fail.

    Send me a PM and let me take a look at your site if your interested. I believe you were but if that changed because of my un-called for attitude towards you I am sorry.


    Again sorry for the confusion I caused. marco is a BH spammer who isn't interested in my services but money only. I could not honestly help him build a ethical site.
     
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