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Site Slow To Load?

Discussion in 'HTML & Website Design' started by Gynew, Oct 16, 2012.

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    Gynew, Oct 16, 2012 IP
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    Check with Google Page speed, I personally think it is hosting problem.
     
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    Try asking your hosting company, they should tell you the reason.
     
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    May be the server problem where your websites stored.
     
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    Oh yeah, that's painfully slow... and it's not transfer, it's handshaking. It sits there waiting for server response for a LONG time before transferring anything. That's a hosting issue and/or a fat/bloated/slow server side script... which is disturbing given how simple a page that is (to the point one wonders why it's even served as it's own .php)

    Of course the HTML 3.2 slapped in a Tranny doctype means said site was written in what, 1998? 2001 at the latest? Tables for layout, endless pointless javascript for no good reason inlined in the markup, px metric fonts, fixed width layout that's not even 1024 friendly, -- it's a laundry list of how not to build a website.

    Though it's doubtful any of that has to do with your speed problem; that's got to be a issue with your host... or maybe your DNS.
     
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  7. Gynew

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    Thanks everyone for the responses so far, I really appreciate it.

    So does that mean we should get a new host?

    I emailed the hosts and they just said:

    I could see that, the domain is hosted in a shared server. I have checked in the server and confirmed that the server load and the resource usage is within the limit. I could not find any inconsistencies in the server. Further, no other domain in this server is reported to have such loading issues. It seems the issue is specific for your website.

    Really? These pages were only designed a couple of months ago...

    Are they THAT badly designed?

    So you think it's just a host problem? What do you mean by DNS?

    I have added the pages to another host to compare if that makes it easier:

    http://www.forkforce.com.au/lp/linde-forklift-for-sale-and-hire.php vs http://www.reactrucks.com.au/lp/linde-forklift-for-sale-and-hire.php

    http://www.forkforce.com.au/lp/brisbane-new-and-used-forklifts-for-sale-and-hire.php vs http://www.reachtrucks.com.au/lp/brisbane-new-and-used-forklifts-for-sale-and-hire.php

    I was worried it might be something to do with the host so I uploaded the same pages to another website host and then did a speed test on the pages and these are the results I got:

    http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/hU4...lp/reach-truck-forklift-for-sale-and-hire.php
    vs
    http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/xlJ...lp/reach-truck-forklift-for-sale-and-hire.php

    and...

    http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/MuO...-new-and-used-forklifts-for-sale-and-hire.php
    vs
    http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/A6d...-new-and-used-forklifts-for-sale-and-hire.php

    What does this mean? Is it just an issue with my host? And what can I request they do to fix the problem?
     
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2012
    Gynew, Oct 16, 2012 IP
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    It can be your website code problem and you need to activate some tolls in your hosting account..
     
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    ggiindia Greenhorn

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    I don't think the page designing slow the speed in the big rate. You must contatct your webite's hosting provider.
    They can more help on this topic.
     
    ggiindia, Oct 17, 2012 IP
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    Loaded quickly for me in ireland, where is your hosting based?
     
    irishmick, Oct 17, 2012 IP
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    Hi check here; www.gtmetrix.com and they will provide you complete report about your website.
     
    technolabsoftware, Oct 20, 2012 IP
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    Like deathshadow said, it is most certainly a hosting issue. You should ask the host what the Maxclient is set to, anything lower than 400-500 probably is the reason for most shared hosts.
     
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    Your site loads fast for me !
     
    SNo, Oct 20, 2012 IP
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    Page loading problem mainly happens for web host issues.
     
    zubizubi, Oct 21, 2012 IP
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    Have you using JS for your landing page or the server is not running well ? You can test it on webpagetest . org
     
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    It may bedue to two reasons... 1. The first one and in most of the cases is the hosting issue..
    however, it may be due to so much graphics on a page that will certainly take time to load and the second is the problem within the code...
    I will advice you to first contact with your hosting service and discuss the issue And then look at your code and reduce some graphics..
    good luck!
     
    MediWorm, Oct 28, 2012 IP
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    The load times aren't bad, but DS was being very kind when he said "it's a laundry list of how not to build a website". You really need to hire a web developer.
     
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    maybe any problem with your coding
     
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    Data is unavailable for your website loading speed as Amazon Alexa API still gathering data.


    This can be due to design, size of the page etc.


    Once your data is available, we can figure out the exact reason behind site low speed.


     
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    Pretty much. Apart from the obvious issues of images for text with no real fallbacks, the fixed width that's too big for netbooks and too small for desktops -- under the hood it's an outright train wreck of HTML 3.2 with a 4 tranny slapped on it... and transitional means the coding practices are in 'transition' from 1997 to 1998 practices.

    ... and rarely is that as true as it is here.

    Just to illustrate what I mean about it being bad in terms of how it's built, let's take the body through to the first heading tag:
    
     <body class="main-bdy" style="margin:0px;"><TABLE class=main-table border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=990 align=center>
    <TBODY>
    <TR>
    <TD height=115 vAlign=top>
    	<TABLE class=inner-table border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=930 align=center><TBODY>
    					<TR>
    					<TD vAlign='top' width='50%'>
    					<div class='heading-logo'>
    					<IMG class='logo-img' border='0' alt='forkforce new &amp; used forklift sales, hire, service &amp; attachments' align='left' src='images/forkforce-logo.jpg' width='369' height='84'>
    					</div>
    					</TD>
    					<TD vAlign='top' width='50%' align='right'>
    					<IMG class='call-now-img' alt='call-now 1300 423 675' align='right' src='images/call-now-img.jpg' width='431' height='108'>
    					</TD>
    					</TR></TBODY>
    					</TABLE></TD></TR>
    <TR>
    <TD height=348 vAlign=top>
    <TABLE class=header border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%">
    <TBODY>
    <TR>
    <TD vAlign=top>
    <TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=630>
    <TBODY>
    <TR>
    <TD vAlign=top colSpan=2>
    <H1 class="heading-h1">Electric Pallet Trucks For Sale & Hire</H1></TD></TR>
    Code (markup):
    What's worse than tables for layout? Tables for NOTHING... particularly tables that only have one TD in them which are automatically a complete waste of code -- it's pointless bloat that serves zero legitimate purpose -- meaning of the tables present in just that part, only one is actually doing anything worth mentioning.

    From there it has the upper case tags ala HTML 3.2, single quotes meaning if there's PHP under it that's probably trash too built by someone with a raging chodo for double quotes... and of the classes and attributes used, NONE of them serve any legitimate purpose... much less I'm pretty sure that H1 is NOT the heading under which all other headings are subsections -- that's the POINT of using headings, lowered order (higher numbered) headings declare the start of a subsecton of the higher order (lower numbered) heading preceeding it, which is why having multiple H1's makes no sense, and why that's not a good candidate to be the h1 since it's actually the heading for a break-out box.

    The real laugh being whoever did this probably had to put more effort in to use all that outdated/outmoded idiocy than they would have if they used post 1998 coding techniques with proper separation of presentation from content.

    If I had coded that same thing, it would have read:
    
    <body>
    
    <div id="pageWrapper">
    	<h1>
    		ForkForce<br />
    		<small>New & Used Forklift Sales, Hire, Service &amp; Attachments</small>
    		<span><!-- image replacement --></span>
    	</h1>
    	
    	<div id="contact">
    		Call Now<br />
    		<strong>1300 423 765</strong>
    		<ul>
    			<li>QLD</li>  <li>WA</li>  <li>NSW</li>
    			<li>VIC</li>  <li>SA</li>  <li>NT</li>
    			<li>TAS</li>  <li class="last">ACT</li>
    		</ul>
    		<!-- I'd try to fit the address in here too! -->
    	<!-- #contact --></div>
    	
    	<div class="callToAction">
    		<h2>Electric Pallet Trucks For Sale & Hire</h2>
    
    Code (markup):
    Which would allow for header navigation, proper images off graceful degredation, proper CSS off degredation, and despite adding a bunch of *SHOCK* content for things like screen readers and being easily styled for things like responsive layout, it's almost half the size.

    That's what MODERN code should look like. If you see a bunch of stuff in upper case with endless TD, TR and TABLE, with lots of use of the STYLE attribute and other attributes like VALIGN, with classes on EVERYTHING, whoever coded it probably has zero business making websites anymore due to having their head permanently wedged up 1997's arse.

    Hell, this line alone:
    <H1 class="heading-h1">

    Means whoever did this needs has failed to grasp HTML and CSS so badly they need to back the **** away from the keyboard. If you paid someone money to do this for you, I'd suggest a lawsuit to get that money back for fraud.
     
    deathshadow, Oct 29, 2012 IP