Feedback What does it take to get bnanned on DP?

First, sorry for another thread, but for some reason this one was closed:
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=2570594

Member was selling stolen script and wanted (or even did) to scam other members and he is not banned? How come?
I mean people in the past were banned for small things like bumping threads, posting too much or whatever minor things. Yet proven thief/scammer is not being banned? Does that mean it is allowed to sell stolen things here as long as noone post DMCA? And if they post it you only get your thread deleted? Sounds like scammer's paradise.

Can we get admin/mod opinion on this?

 

As far as I remember banned users had red nicks (or something else that is seen for all and you could tell that user was banned). So thats why I assumed he was not banned...

 

Maybe not just for bumping a thread, maybe for multiple bumps (when bumps were free in buy/sell couple years ago) + multiple useless posts or something like that.
Something that is much much less bad than scamming and selling stolen goods. To be honest I am pretty sure at least 50% banned members were banned for smaller things than thieving/scamming.
And to be even more honest - I am deeply shocked that this forum does not ban exposed scammers/thieves.. This is beyond comprehension and I am not exaggerating...

ps: Can I get straight answer to these 2 questions:
1. Why don't you ban proven thieves/scammers.
2. What are 3 or 5 +- most common ban reasons? (this question is so that I could imagine what is worse than scamming on this forum)

 

User was selling script that he does not have permission to sell or resell (that was confirmed by the script owner). Proof does not get better than that!
Plus if you read the thread it was almost clear that he was selling nulled/stolen script, I confronted him, he said he had permission, then I contacted real script owner and he confirmed my suspicion! Then script owner posted dmca and thread was taken down. Its 100% proven case. Not even 99%, but full 100%. I honestly can not believe that its not enough proof for you.... If thats not enough what is enough? Court judgement, lol?
I am honestly amused, I have been on webmaster forums for 7 years, I have seen it all but this (that confirmed scammer who tried to sell stolen goods is not being banned). I honestly do not understand how is that even possible...

 

Of course you know that!
Script owner is member AdultVideoScript.Com
Related thread:
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=2570594
Script owner CONFIRMED that member Nathf1505 was selling his stolen script.

After AdultVideoScript.Com posted dmca you DELETED that thread. That means you BELIEVED that member Nathf1505 was sellling stolen script that belongs to member AdultVideoScript.Com.

 

1. Reading that thread it was almost clear that he was selling nulled script without any resale rights. That was almost clear for anybody with half a brain.
Of course "almost" is not 100%, so I contacted script owner and he confirmed that. Then fact that he was selling stolen script was clear 100% (not 99%) to anybody with half a brain. Since you are admin of this forum I assume that you have more than half a brain, that means I do not believe that it was not clear for you.

2.

Lol does that mean you will delete thread anytime someone post a dmca? I mean if someone wants to mess with legit seller and posts dmca because he does not like competition you would delete 100% legit thread? This is ridiculous.

3. So lets say I start a thread selling vbulletin (or any other script that I do not have resale rights) forum script. Does that mean I will not be banned as scammer because you "won't have proof"?


All in all this is unbelievable, how can tolerate exposed scammer-thief on your forum, this is genuinely disgusting...

All the scammers reading this thread now knows that they can sell nulled scripts here and all that will happen at worst - deleted thread. This is truly unbelievable, first time in my 7 years of posting on various forums I see such a nonsense.

 

Wouldn't a legit seller simply file a DMCA counter notice, thus preventing his "legit" sales thread from being taken down?

Of course DP would remove it if he got a notice and no counter notice - that is how the law works. He is required to remove it when he gets a DMCA notice and no counter notice, and required to keep (or put back a removed thread) if he gets a counter notice; that is what protects him from being sued by either party. The dispute is between the parties claiming to own the material not DP.

 

No, I would not file any dmca's. I would simply sell stolen/nulled scripts trying to scam DP members, then real owners of the script would file dmca. My thread would be taken down and I would open another thread selling another stolen script and so on and on. I mean you do not ban those who do so, like you did not ban that scammer Nathf1505.

So all scammers are free to sell stolen scripts on your forum, you just made that very very clear. Worse that could happen is deleted thread (and even that heppens only if real owner files dmca)

 

Solid suggestion. :thumbsup:

on a more serious note, is there any planned action against MS for their fraudulent copyright claim, I thought sending fake DMCA's was more sever then sending the DMCA itself... strange how that all works.

 

I told a moderator once to "kindly go fuck himself" that worked I got more done in that 3 month ban than I did in 6 months here prior to that.

That being said, myself and about 4 others had totally busted someone trying to rip people off. They would not remove his thread.

Its an unenviable job to suss out a range of things that go on here and I typically agree with most positions that DP takes. Its pretty logical and in a range of cases, the law I would imagine.

Nigel

 

So how can we have that member banned (the one who was selling our software without permission) ? What kind of proof do you require from us, more than an official DMCA signed under penalty of perjury ? It was sent from the official email of adultvideoscript.com, where the software is officially sold. I appreciate the thread being removed, but what if he continues to sell someone else's scripts around here ? Don't you want your forums to be clean of fraud and scammers ? He deserves a ban. But you decide...If you need a proof, tell us what do you require from us.

 

You must have been lucky. I started a thread asking them all to do the exact same thing, after a series of weird infractions and legitimate posts removed, and the only thing I got was a bunch of green rep points

 

Thanks for taking action, at least me and you cares that scammer would not be loose on the forum. However it looks like forum owner does not care much about that and sends clear message: "Hey, scammers, you are welcome to scam dp members, do not worry I would not ban you for that, worst case - I would delete your thread"
Honestly impossible to comprehend what is happening here..