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Does Obama deserve a second term as President ?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by John Bull, Sep 22, 2012.

  1. robjones

    robjones Notable Member

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    #21
    This morning Axelrod said Romney lied the whole time.

    Being called a liar by David Axelrod is like having Liberace accuse you of looking really really gay.
     

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  2. Corwin

    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    #22
    David Axelrod is a slimy steamy liar. If bullshit were music he'd be a symphony.

    There is NOTHING Alexrod would not say or do to win. I believe that he created and coached those lying whores that went after Herman Cain.
     
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    babak44 Active Member

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    #23
    yesterday CNN reporter said: in First debate also Bush lost to John Kerry but in second debate Bush won!
    I think after that debate Obama goes unfair when called his rival liar, he should wait for next debate but seems he lost his confidence!
     
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  4. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #24
    When people say a candidate won or lost a debate, it is normally very subjective. Partisan supporters of each candidate will declare their candidate the victor and the media decides which way to spin it.

    This was not the case with the last debate, which 67% of Americans felt Romney won compared to 25% who felt Obama won. An ass whooping this decisive has not been witnessed in decades.


    Obama's problem is not confidence. His problem is that platform is constructed of pixie dust, bullshit, and fairy wings. It isn't the type of thing that stands up to real scrutiny.

    In the past, it has been the job of the free press to call out the fact the emporer has no clothes, but in the case of Obama, the press is an active participant in making the illusion seem more real.

    You put the president up against someone willing to push back against an obvious and blatant bullshit claim like "Romney wants to grant 5 Trillion dollars in tax cuts to the wealthy" and obviously he has nothing to substantiate that claim.

    The real question is not "Why did Romney win?", but rather "Why has nobody in our media called out the never ending stream of crap flowing forth from the President's office of propaganda?".
     
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    babak44 Active Member

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    I guess even if Romney love to grant 5 trillion dollar to the wealthy has not to reveal that at all, when Romney didn't say that then Obama did big mistake I guess. Obama claimed that Romney disguised on first debate and was liar. should ask Obama why he didn't notice that during debate? seems Obama hasn't good adviser!
     
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  6. Corwin

    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    #26
    Unfortunately, it doesn't have to stand up to any scrutiny. Remember, Hitler based all propaganda on the premise that if you repeat a lie often enough, people will feel familiar with it, then believe it.

    For example, Romney has stated he is not giving a $5 trillion tax cut to the wealthy. He has no plans to do it, and no one can point to anything in Romney's platform that says it. But Obama will repeat that big gaping noxious lie because weak minds will believe it.
     
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  7. John Bull

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    #27
    All the comments made so far are obviously by ordinary seasoned citizens who have heard and suffered it all before.

    An important factor in listening to any speech, particularly from politicians, is to remember that people who promise the future are not supernatural soothsayers or time travelers, they are just like you and me - either optimistic/pessimistic guess artists or liars. No verbal tirade that concerns the future is worthy of serious consideration, even if backed up by scientific proclamations. The future is unknown.

    When you listen to these politicians gabbling on about what they are going to do if elected, check their history and see what they have actually DONE. History is factual and cannot be challenged. Future promises are just words and mean very little except honest or dishonest intentions or simply bait to lure voters.

    Take Obama for instance, whatever he spouts on the platform is of no value at all. He has actually served a term in office - JUDGE HIM ON THAT ! Not any electoral crap.

    Romney ? Who the hell is he and what has he accomplished ? Well if you are lucky and find something he has done in the past, then judge him on that - NOT WHAT HE SPOUTS ON THE PLATFORM.

    History is the only factual evidence we have concerning what the ability of a person is, but millions of people seem to overlook the past and are led like lambs to the slaughter by the intangible verbal diarrhea of a persuasive speaker
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    Remember Hitler ? He was an despicable lying little arsehole, but the packs of consistent lies that he yelled at the masses with the verbal artistry and gesticulations of a failed Shakespearean actor turned tens of millions of them into mindless, ruthless Zombies, who followed him right down the plug hole amongst the dead and debris of that 1,000 year Third Reich they were promised.
     
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  8. Corwin

    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    #28
    O.K., so under Obama, unemployment was 6.6% when he was elected and as a result of his policies unemployment has soared, the debt is at a critical level, and the economy is a shambles.

    Bull, I'm wondering why you haven't bothered to check out Romney's accomplishments, especially his executive experience and success as Governor of Massachusetts.

    BTW, Bull, I put you at what - 24 years old?
     
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    #29
    although such unpleasant records, medias say Obama still has more chance to win election!

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  10. John Bull

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    #30
    Looks like all the extremely complex and serious balls Obama is juggling are inherited from the incompetent actions of previous administrations. Considering the mess he has had to deal with, he has not done a bad job and deserves another shot.

    Romney ? Apart from his own two balls, if he has any, the 3 balls in the air are about as important as a piece of toilet paper with a hole in it.
     
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  11. robjones

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    #31
    That may be the least knowledgeable post in the thread. No small feat given your others. Fortunately you dont get to vote.
     
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  12. Corwin

    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    #32
    If bullshit were music, you'd be a symphony! :)

    Let me put it another way - when Obama was elected, the unemployment rate was only 6.6%. But after the Democrats spent $4 Trillion (and PROMISED that the spending was necessary to keep it below 8%), unemployment shot up to over 10%.
     
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    #33
    Obama is the reason for my new Democratic voting policy: if a Democrat supports my progressive views, I will vote for him/her; if not I will vote Green, Socialist, what have you. I'm tired of voting against Republicans, when many Democrats are not a real liberal alternative.
     
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  14. Corwin

    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    Windzal, I do see your point. It's always been my position that Democrats do NOT stand for the things they pretend to stand for.
     
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    grpaul Well-Known Member

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    #35
    LOL, and the amazing insight keeps storming in from overseas...

    Failures blame and point the finger, leaders find solutions.

    This is one of the dumbest arguments I've seen in a while.... Why is everyone so obsessed with giving Obama another chance? He's doing a terrible job and he "deserves another 4 years"? Why? Out of sympathy?

    This is not a little lemonade stand that Obama has failed to grow, it's the United States of America - a COUNTRY.
     
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    grpaul Well-Known Member

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    #36
    I do find it funny that people are now setting a different set of standards for Obama.

    We have 4 year terms for a reason.

    He's done a BAD job at fixing what is broken, and like every other CEO / company leader, he doesn't deserve to get fired.. Pretty sad stuff...
     
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  17. Corwin

    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    #37
    Bears repeating.

    To put it another way:

    Failures make Excuses. Leaders find Solutions.
     
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    #38
    interesting! I see European rather to see Obama second term of presidency, maybe because he more comply with European standards! anyway people follow their interest.
     
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    #39
    Bingo. Which is why Americans would do well to ignore people like John Bull. His interests are most certainly not American interests.
     
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  20. boblord666

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    Damn these overseas people being all for a Democratic victory. Who wouldn't want another Bush in office hey? Two wars and a GFC were his proud achievements.

    Now Romney follows - For the sake of peace, we must make our military bigger, with bigger guns and more guns and we must show the world how strong we are by displaying how tough we are and telling these countries what to do.

    Obama's foreign policy sucks but it sucks a lost less than Romney's.

    Go Obama Go. Go you good thing.
     
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