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What is the difference between Google Panda and Penguin?

Discussion in 'Google' started by clive2, May 25, 2012.

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    Google Panda and Google Penguin is these are same one, if not then, What is the difference between Google Panda and Google Penguin algorithm?
     
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  2. EscalateSEO

    EscalateSEO Banned

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    No, they are definitely not the same. Penguin is primarily focused around on-page SEO and over-optimization.
     
    EscalateSEO, May 25, 2012 IP
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    coolrohit222002 Well-Known Member

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    Google Panda Update Overview:


    According to Google’s official blog post when Panda launched,

    This update is designed to reduce rankings for low-quality sites—sites which are low-value add for users, copy content from other websites or sites that are just not very useful. At the same time, it will provide better rankings for high-quality sites—sites with original content and information such as research, in-depth reports, thoughtful analysis and so on.

    Basically, Panda updates are designed to target pages that aren’t necessarily spam but aren’t great quality. This was the first ever penalty that went after “thin content,” and the sites that were hit hardest by the first Panda update were content farms (hence why it was originally called the Farmer update), where users could publish dozens of low-quality, keyword stuffed articles that offered little to no real value for the reader. Many publishers would submit the same article to a bunch of these content farms just to get extra links.

    Panda is a site wide penalty, which means that if “enough” (no specific number) pages of your site were flagged for having thin content, your entire site could be penalized. Panda was also intended to stop scrappers (sites that would republish other company’s content) from outranking the original author’s content.

    Here is a breakdown of all the Panda updates and their release dates. If your site’s traffic took a major hit around one of these times there is a good chance it was flagged by Panda

    1. Panda 1.0 (aka the Farmer Update) on February 24th 2011
    2. Panda 2.0 on April 11th 2011. (Panda impacts all English speaking countries)
    3. Panda 2.1 on May 9th 2011 or so
    4. Panda 2.2 on June 18th 2011 or so.
    5. Panda 2.3 on around July 22nd 2011.
    6. Panda 2.4 in August 2011(Panda goes international)
    7. Panda 2.5 on September 28th 2011
    8. Panda 2.5.1 on October 9th 2011
    9. Panda 2.5.2 on October 13th 2011
    10. Panda 2.5.3 on October 19/20th 2011
    11. Panda 3.1 on November 18th 2011
    12. Panda 3.2 on about January 15th 2012
    13. Panda 3.3 on about February 26th 2012
    14. Panda 3.4 on March 23rd 2012
    15. Panda 3.5 on April 19th 2012

    Search Engine Land recently created this great Google Panda update infographic to help walk site owners through the many versions of the Google Panda updates.

    Many site owners complained that even after they made changes to their sites in order to be more “Panda friendly,” their sites didn’t automatically recover. Panda updates do not happen at regular intervals, and Google doesn’t re-index every site each time, so some site owners were forced to deal with low traffic for several months until Google got around to re-crawling their website and taking note of any positive changes.

    Google Penguin Update Overview:


    The Google Penguin Update launched on April 24. According to the Google blog, Penguin is an “important algorithm change targeted at webspam. The change will decrease rankings for sites that we believe are violating Google’s existing quality guidelines.” Google mentions that typical black hat SEO tactics like keyword stuffing (long considered webspam) would get a site in trouble, but less obvious tactics (link incorporating irrelevant outgoing links into a page of content) would also cause Penguin to flag your site. Says Google,

    Sites affected by this change might not be easily recognizable as spamming without deep analysis or expertise, but the common thread is that these sites are doing much more than white hat SEO; we believe they are engaging in webspam tactics to manipulate search engine rankings.

    Site owners should be sure to check their Google Webmaster accounts for any messages from Google warning about your past spam activity and a potential penalty. Google says that Penguin has impacted about 3.1% of queries (compared to Panda 1.0’s 12%). If you saw major traffic losses between April 24th and April 25th, chances are Penguin is the culprit, even though Panda 3.5 came out around the same time.

    Unfortunately, Google has yet to outline exactly what signals Penguin is picking up on, so many site owners that were negatively impacted are in the dark as to where they want wrong with their onsite SEO. Many in the SEO community have speculated that some contributing factors to Penguin might be things like:

    1. Aggressive exact-match anchor text
    2. Overuse of exact-match domains
    3. Low-quality article marketing & blog spam
    4. Keyword stuffing in internal/outbound links

    It’s important to remember that Panda is an algorithm update, not a manual penalty. A reconsideration request to Google won’t make much a difference–you’ll have to repair your site and wait for a refresh before your site will recover. As always do not panic if you are seeing a down turn in traffic, in the past when there is a major Google update like this things often rebound. If you do think you have some sort of SEO penalty as a result of either the Google Panda or Google Penguin updates, please contact your SEO service provider to help or start trouble shooting.
     
    coolrohit222002, May 25, 2012 IP
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    Grate work!
     
    TSG, May 25, 2012 IP
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    kalseo Active Member

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    There are more than 90 differences in algorithms from last Panda update and first Penguin update. All differences are listed in few different articles on Google Webmaster Blog.
     
    kalseo, May 25, 2012 IP
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    kimberlymitchell87 Greenhorn

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    Google panda is all about to improve the quality of the content in the web page and Google penguin is all about to stop the web spamming in the search engines. The main objective of the google panda is by penalize the low quality sites, to bring improvement in the quality of the content in each web page and for penguin is by penalize spammy sites, stop the over optimization.
     
    kimberlymitchell87, May 25, 2012 IP
  7. Abhik

    Abhik ..:: The ONE ::..

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    Panda is about freshness of website's content where Penguin deals with optimization techniques.
     
    Abhik, May 25, 2012 IP
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    Thanks a lot for such valuable information. My question here is- usually we do social bookmarking in a large proportion of seo. I think Penguin is also affecting sites which are getting backlinks from number of social bookmarking sites? Because as per penguin, if we are getting backlinks from anchors generating from almost similar domains, then it will penalize.
     
    expertvillagemedia, May 28, 2012 IP
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    thanks guy, :)
    useful information for me.
     
    aldrik, Jun 2, 2012 IP
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    Panda mostly focused on Spam Links.. Penguin takes more importance of Onpage factors and Social Media presence.
     
    RubenMHill, Jun 3, 2012 IP
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    For content google make panda
    For links google make penguin
     
    jessylogan, Jun 3, 2012 IP
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    it is really impressive!!thank you!!
     
    scarletor, Jun 3, 2012 IP
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    @coolrohit222002 you shared really valuable info.....penguin is not effective to normal blogs......it smashed completely to blackhat blog owners who was creating thousands of backlinks in a day to their blogs with some sort of softwares and all................
     
    vabtrock, Jun 3, 2012 IP
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    Both are of Google's Search results ranking algorithms (different versions/updates) which are designed, developed to help the relevant, quality and original sources to come up and hit the no-quality and spammed contents down. You can find more details about Panda and Penguin at Wikipedia, go through with the following articles:

    Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Panda

    Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Penguin
     
    josefaryan, Jun 3, 2012 IP
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    Penguin now is more strict when it comes to the drastic SEO methods. No room for blackat methods in penguin time.
     
    plumbers101, Jun 4, 2012 IP
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    Padalda Banned

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    What are the safety precautions to stay away from Panda & Penguin updates ?
     
    Padalda, Jun 5, 2012 IP
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    Safety - Quality work, Quality Content...and follow what google like..
     
    angelinawillium, Jun 6, 2012 IP
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    In a nutshell:


    Panda demolished content farms and made bum marketing obsolete.


    Penguin demolished link farms and all forms of mass-linkage.
     
    war_machine, Jun 9, 2012 IP
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    where would one get these updates?
     
    spids, Jun 9, 2012 IP
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    Very interesting and useful post!
     
    zubizubi, Jun 9, 2012 IP