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50% free submission web directory dropped out by Google (Penguin)

Discussion in 'Directories' started by Coro, May 15, 2012.

  1. #1
    Hi folks,

    I read an article if almost 50% free submission web directory de-indexed by Google. http://www.webmasterworld.com/google/4453616.htm

    What do you think?

    Cheers,
     
    Coro, May 15, 2012 IP
  2. webdev007

    webdev007 Active Member

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    Google deindex sites based on the quality of contents and not on the basis of it's niche or what it is related to.
     
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    dvduval Notable Member

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    #3
    There will always be low quality sites on the net, regardless of the software they are running. And there will be one person making real money for every 10 that are copying an old profit model that no longer works the same way. Here is some great advice from someone a true pro on running a professional web directory, and here is what I had to say about the latest google over optimization penalty. There are some exciting things you can do with a web directory if you look beyond what "everyone else" is doing. If you look around in the right places you'll find some people making money and coming up with new ideas that make their directories really cool.
     
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  4. Coro

    Coro Greenhorn

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    With the Google Penguin chose the wrong directory will bring disaster.

    Ah thanks for the links. Yes create a unique directory is the key.
     
    Coro, May 15, 2012 IP
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    EvcRo Notable Member

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    #5
    hahaha


    another thread made by so called SEO specialist (get his degree after reading some free seo report)



    i have few free directories



    all are indexed like this



    About 45,500 results
    (0.33 seconds)


    About 123,000 results (0.38 seconds)

    So i guess thats a post made by some guy who has 2 directories and one got deindexed because of who knows bad things he did on it. hence 50% :D
     
    EvcRo, May 16, 2012 IP
  6. Coro

    Coro Greenhorn

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    You should read this thread also http://www.seroundtable.com/google-directory-removal-15151.html :) agreed 50% perhaps too much but low quality web directory will falling soon.
     
    Coro, May 16, 2012 IP
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    EvcRo Notable Member

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    #7
    Checked all my directories, all had their pages in index increased 5x-10x times since last check, for sure something is going on but my directories are quite ok. a good directory is still a valuable resource and a legit way for people to promote their business.
     
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    EvcRo Notable Member

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    #8
    I got it!

    the directory as example is part of a network that sells bulk links, check how many links in it, a handfull. Probably all those links are found exactly the same in other directories on same ip.

    My directories have 10k's of reviewed links so this move will increase my directories value, good move by google.
     
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  9. Coro

    Coro Greenhorn

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    Yup and this is a good news actually (especially for old web directory that has quality listings), and the best is "less competitors" :)
     
    Coro, May 16, 2012 IP
  10. YMC

    YMC Well-Known Member

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    #10
    Thank you Coro for posting this thread!

    When I first read your post, I thought oh crap. Then I realized probably 90-95% of the free directories should be deindexed and thought this could be a very good thing in the long run.

    The looming question since Penguin about negative SEO had me wondering if directories were going to be the big losers. But, if Google is weeding out the QBCs, perhaps they continue to value directories and are just finally making it unprofitable to start a bad one. Time will tell.

    BTW, the article linked to in this thread has an update where someone has tested 500 free directories. He's found 16% of his list were delisted. He didn't say what list he used though.
     
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  11. Coro

    Coro Greenhorn

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    @YMC: Just pasting some links.

    500 free directories -> 16%, a considerable number. I'm sure G will never discredit a particular type of site, quality of content remains their main priority.
     
    Coro, May 16, 2012 IP
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    stevemcmohn Peon

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    Hi,
    I like the info and the update shared here.
    Thanks
    steve Mcmohn
     
    stevemcmohn, May 16, 2012 IP
  13. YMC

    YMC Well-Known Member

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    I don't know about discrediting a site by the type of site it is. But, I have seen numerous examples of quality sites being outranked by ones with weaker content, more pages and more backlinks.
     
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  15. JohnRock

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    I think the best route is just SEO optimization and then you can enjoy the organic results come in, atleast that worked for me !
     
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  16. Coro

    Coro Greenhorn

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    There is a good article here, you might as well have read it http://searchengineland.com/google-talks-penguin-update-recover-negative-seo-120463

    It seems that G put the "quality of content" first and than "bad links"

    Yes, make as natural as possible
     
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    silencer Notable Member

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    #17
    Wrong. low quality web directories have never risen. So how can they fall.

    People need to stop looking at the site-type "directory, blog, forum, whatever", and start looking at the value/content/relevancy.

    Any website that has low quality content is going to do poorly. It's why for 10 years we have been saying now, that directory owners need to edit their content. That's not as simple as just rejecting people. It means editing submission information (descriptions and titles) to be unique and non-spammy. In many cases this might require full re-writes if the site is good but the information is poor.

    People need to stop thinking the sky is falling in and saying directories will fail. Because they've been saying it for 10 years, and the good directories have weathered all the supposed storms and are indexed as strongly as they ever were, and ranking as strongly as they ever were.

    The real truth to be gleaned from this is that Google is getting far better at detecting and discounting poor quality websites (and that includes low quality directories). So directory owners, what you need to do is work on your content, maybe get rid of the 10+ mediocre directories you have and create 1 good one.

    make sense? Should. We've been saying it for a decade now.
     
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  18. JohnRock

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    I agree with the above post, the words Blog,Site,Forum are meaningless and pointless - THe fact is what matters is Quality of Content and Quality of Keywords.


    People also focus too much on getting visitors, and not enough on creating returning visitors and an online community. Thats where the GEMS are !
     
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    Here's the reality of the situation...

    I've just run through our free directory list (it's called the Top 100 because it is what we consider to be the top 100 free directories) and tested the indexation of the directories. Here's my results.

    Every single directory is indexed, that's 100%. It also looks to be strong indexation. The vast majority have literally 000's to 100s of 000's of pages indexed depending upon the relative size of the directory itself.

    Granted, there is a decent handful that only have a few hundred pages indexed, but they are still indexed. And it is a well known fact that indexation numbers fluctuate wildly.

    To me, this is chicken little. The sky is falling in. Again. I think people need to stop worrying about "site types" and start worrying about actual content quality and relevance.

    Or maybe I just have a really good eye for quality :)
     
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  20. Coro

    Coro Greenhorn

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    Simple analogy: Indexed -> Risen and De-indexed -> fall in.
     
    Coro, May 16, 2012 IP