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Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by 1EightT, Nov 11, 2006.

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  1. visio

    visio Well-Known Member

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    #341
    Go right ahead if your that kind of scum but you will have to activate them individualy and I will ban you as soon as you appear.

    People want a easy way to make lots of money. They never realize they are being conned.



    Hold on just a moment. The software is okay and so is what I am doing as it is condoned by the software. When you weave a web you must be sure you don't crawl around in it.



    Hate to blast your testimonial but you are new(this month infact) and have only one post. You could be legit and you could also be lying and might never have tried the software.
     
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    #342
    And you could be a 14 yrs old girl with pimples, but who cares?
     
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    aeiouy Peon

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    #343
    Haha why so defensive. I think from what Emil has said he is trying to make it work, but you seem to consistently blow him off or blame him.

    Can't say I find it surprising.
     
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    andre75 Peon

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    #344
    Haha. Excellent point, I can understand your frustration.

    Well, I have no doubt that the system works. Otherwise there wouldn't be billions of spam sites on the net today.
    I also have no doubt that 90% of the internet users don't know about this and thus klick the ads.
    I would never click an ad on such a site, but rather on a website that potentially took thousands of hours to built.

    Overall I am not overly worried though. I predict that search engines will incorporate some sort of user feedback system that makes it clear what is spam and what is not.

    There are two ways to make money these days, either you spam the hell out of search engines and you can make a really decent bundle (its also easier) or your try to built something big (like youtube) and hit the really big jackpot.
    As in live, in between there is not a lot of Gold (for people like me). Even though I do believe that working on my site has some potential of making it big (not really) and that my efforts won't be in vein while google wipes my sites, I am more and more tempted.
    Why not, I mean an honest guy like me puts down 100 times more effort and makes 100 times less out of it.
    In a way goolge encourages this.
    Would I feel bad about it? NO, big corporations use their methods (that I cannot afford), so why shouldn't I.
    Well I am still not completely sold on blackhat but I'll keep watching.

    I have a sincere question for 1EightT:
    Have you seen any of this hitting your system?:
    http://newsletter.blizzardinternet.com/commission-junction-cleans-up-spamfiliates/2006/06/28/
     
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    #345
    Won't it be weird paying yourself $500 a month? Will you have to pay taxes on that or will the IRS just think you are schizophrenic?
     
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    #346
    You're such a strange guy lol. What you're trying to tell me Mr. Riddler?
     
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    #347

    No Sh!t I'm new this month. That's what I said in my post. I'm new today. Hell, I'm new this hour.

    Are you a d!psh!t in real life too or do you just do that on the internet?
     
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    stats Well-Known Member

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    #348
    about porn ..

    to totally understand me, just think of how many girls have become prostitute because of ppl promoting porn sites on the internet .. see the connection ?

    and please don't tell me "they would become prostitute anyway one way or other .." .. i know and you know that's just defensive sentence and doesn't represent common sense


     
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  9. visio

    visio Well-Known Member

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    #349
    Whether you make alot or little I know some of us will respect you very highly for being honest and to have the decentsy not to spam the rest of us just for money.


    No just when I run into a run-away for the fruit-cake from.

    I am sure we couldn't see any of these site in action. Who knows if this is just a whole bunch of baloney on a large sub :rolleyes:
     
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    No, I haven't heard a word from cj about any of it. I've done this for about two years with them. Who knows what they will do in the future though. I always diversify whatever I do. We are creating scrapers for other affiliates as well as ways to import data feeds and markov the results.

     
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    #351
    I used to think this way, but the web is overrun by spam. Either you join them or you are lost in between them with your honesty.
    As I said, I haven't decided to join the yet, but I can see the benefits.
    Whats the point of staying honest and starving to death if you can become a king.
     
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    #352
    Do your customers know they are helping to further degrade the Internet?
     
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    gemini181 Well-Known Member

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    #353
    You will never really be happy knowing you cheated! :)
     
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    I've got white hat sites that have been online since the late 90's. I get spam in my forums and blogs, but I put tools in place to block some of the spam. Some markets are so competitive that it takes months or years to rank using regular methods. We try to speed the process up. The search engines make this all possible. They rely on incoming links and on page content. We automate it.

    One of our projects for 2007 is a search engine that is less susceptible to spam. I've been doing this long enough to have some pretty good ideas for defeating it.
     
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    It's not cheating at all. The search engines rely on a select few metrics for ranking sites. We use those metrics and automate the process.

     
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    #356
    1eightt, why are you selling this and not keeping it for yourself? LOL. J/K.

    Nice software, I have to use my cash for my ppc campaigns, or I'd be all over it. I'll look you up next month. Good luck with it.
     
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    gemini181 Well-Known Member

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    #357
    You're very good at what you do, congrats.

    I'm going to 'unsubscribe' from this thread now, so I'll stop seeing the title. :)
    Have fun, and good luck with your improved search engine.
     
    gemini181, Nov 17, 2006 IP
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    #358
    Just thought I'd throw my 2 cents in...

    It is cheating. Just because you can do it doesn't mean it is not cheating. I constently clean out a large number of messages a day from my forums that are nothing more than span with bad links. Most of the messages don't make sence and are just full of keywords. I do have several spam type filters in place so I would hate to see what happens if I turned them off. People like you waste other people's time filtering through all the garbage. If it is not releavent to the site you are posting to and you don't have something to add to the topic then it is cheating

    I realize the major search engines way of ranking sites is not perfect and it takes a lot of hard work for the little guy to make any head way (if he is lucky) but you are not helping the situtation.

    A large part of the internet is now filled with these spam sites. People looking for a quick buck. I can't say I am not tempted to try out your system but it can't last long.

    This is like taking a small step towards the dark side. People who try this say "oh I just will see how it is, I'm not hurting anyone!". They may succeed (your system probably does work) and they will get use too the money. When this fails either through more compittion or google, cj, etc.. find better ways to combat it whats your next step? We need the money ... I know ... (another small step) ... lets start harvesting CJ passwords!
     
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    #359
    How close are you to that $60K?
     
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    Well seeing as 1000k a month is a million dollars a month I'm not surprised it's difficult for you to hit it ;)
     
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