Stuck in Supplemental for months

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by brainmass, Nov 11, 2006.

  1. a389951l

    a389951l Must Create More Content

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    #21
    I have seen the opposite. But if that a high content page sites on a well trusted and linked site sure it can get indexed without any links to that particular page.

    But a new site with many "high content" pages may not get indexed or just partially indexed. It will need links for sure. Just curious if you have seen otherwise?

    Can someone define a "high content" page?
     
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  2. brainmass

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    #22
    I didn't say you were wrong, I said your idea doesn't apply here since every single page is supplemental no matter how much content it has.

    These are examples of supplemental pages I pulled form site:

    http://www.solutionlibrary.com/business/other/32341
    http://www.solutionlibrary.com/business/other/45522
    http://www.solutionlibrary.com/business/other/63336
    http://www.solutionlibrary.com/business/management/62401
    http://www.solutionlibrary.com/computer_science/artificialtelligence/40008
    http://www.solutionlibrary.com/business/marketing/53213
    http://www.solutionlibrary.com/business/other/63343

    Those have plenty of content so they shouldn't be dumped into supplemental index for the sole reason of being low on content.
     
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    visio Well-Known Member

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    #23
    I have seen new sites with high quality content get indexed with only a couple links to the home page. The internal pages got indexed because they were linked to from the home page.


    Like I said before that isn't quality content and that isn't alot. Google can tell just because a page has 1500 words doesn't mean it is content.
     
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    #24
    But did these new sites have hundreds of pages? This site has thousands of pages. I would argue and seen that sites with "high content" that are new cannot get all of the pages indexed in the main index.

    I do agree that a small site may get its internal pages indexed if it has good inbound links to the home page.

    Here is a link that explains more about the supplemental indexed and the "fix":

    http://www.branica.com/forums/showthread.php?t=172
     
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    #25
    What exactly is "quality content" ?
     
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    #26
    Its because your content is not original
     
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    #27
    I asked this before.

    Exactly - what the heck is quality content - sounds very subjective to mean.

    Are you sure? I did a quick scan and the content that I saw was unique.
     
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    #28
    well i my tool picked up stuff which is being duplicated on brainmass.com
     
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    #29
    Are you saying that if your pages are showing SUPPLEMENTAL that this is BAD???

    how do you get into supplemental?

    How do you get out of it?
     
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    #30
    It's not original?

    Just to clarify, the content on this site was not some purchased database that a million other sites is using. All the problems/solutions were posted by students, on the parent site, and responses created by graduate-level (Masters or PhD) individuals.

    Couple hundred new problem/solutions are added every day.
     
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    #33
    I disagree. A site can have every last page indexed. This is unlikely and some pages don't need to be. The sites I am referring to have 100s of pages of REAL QUALITY UNIQUE content not thousands. But I tend to doubt there is a new site with thousands of unique quality content pages.

    I hate to appear as a bragger but the articles at my blog would be considered quality, relevant unique content: www.1stsearchenginerankings.com




    Read this: http://www.1stsearchenginerankings....-supplemental-results-and-how-to-get-removed/


    And that parent site is the one who gets indexed and ranked.
     
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    #34
    I'm sorry but unless they have developed AI overnight there is no way any search engine can determine if the content is truly "quality".

    You shouldn't be using a term that is so subjective when it comes to describing content. Content may not be quality to you if you have no interest in it, but for someone else who is looking for whats on that page the content is "quality".
     
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    #35
    If this is the case, then none of your pages are supplemental according to your subjective definition of high quality content?
     
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    #36
    Maybe we're getting a little off track here :)
     
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    #37
    Hello is anybody home? :rolleyes:
    That is what I have been telling you. Google has that AI which identifies quality content and is much more complex than you think. Google employees some of the most talented people in the world.


    I have pages that are supplemental but none of my articles are.
     
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    #38
    Sorry to get off track - visio you are making claims based on your opinion. And you do have articles in supplemental index - see attached image.

    I am not trying to say you are absolutely wrong but the supplemental index has nothing to do with high quality content. Duplicate content - perhaps. Incorrect use of meta title & description tags - perhaps. Lack of links - perhaps. And other factors that we will never know.

    Hey I could be wrong but I do not think brainmass' issues lie with high quality content.
     

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  19. visio

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    #39
    Yeah I don't really consider that an article. I had no intention of ever getting any google traffic from that so could careless if it got indexed or not(btw i get 25 hits/month from it :p) but it did go supplemental because it was low quality. That only proves my case. I just wrote it because I found it amusing at the time and it was short.

    High quality does have an effect on supplemental rankings and the screenshot really proves that.
     
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