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New PR fraud method detected - Google please fix this !

Discussion in 'Domain Names' started by samdar, Nov 14, 2011.

  1. nikolayjs

    nikolayjs Peon

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    #61
    hope they fix it
     
    nikolayjs, Nov 22, 2011 IP
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    globegenius Active Member

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    #62
    Good information for new and old web masters alike. It actually gives me pleasure to look at my portfolio and know all my PR is built with White Hat SEO. Might actually be worth some coinage down the road. Maybe the tortoise does win in the end. :D
     
    globegenius, Nov 22, 2011 IP
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    CanadianEh Notable Member

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    #63
    The info you provided is useful to new and experienced users of the forum.

    Thanks Samdar.
     
    CanadianEh, Nov 26, 2011 IP
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    rdthewall Active Member

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    #64
    Rep. added !
     
    rdthewall, Nov 27, 2011 IP
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    ViperBlood Well-Known Member

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    ViperBlood, Dec 3, 2011 IP
  6. samdar

    samdar Well-Known Member

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    #66
    It's just a fake 301 redirection. It's very simple to find out. However methods that I mentioned on my post 1 is more complicated and involves more brain to do it. It is very difficult to spot.
     
    samdar, Dec 3, 2011 IP
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    acethegunnerzzz Peon

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    #67
    spasat(dot)com is stil l PR 10

    i wonder how long it will last
     
    acethegunnerzzz, Dec 4, 2011 IP
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    kamal_ds Well-Known Member

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    #68
    Thanks for reporting it. I will keep it in mind when buying domains from Flippa folks
     
    kamal_ds, Dec 4, 2011 IP
  9. okayface

    okayface Well-Known Member

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    #69
    So far I saw domains which called The Master Samdar are valid. It may be true that these domains from the fake, the domain such redirected to the high pr and then valid. And apparently it's only a matter of time valid from google cache. Like when we buy a domain at GoDaddy. We know that many domains at GoDaddy auction are fake high PR, then the next update, they become valid. Then the fake domains which had been taken by buyers, get a valid domain on they account, and Godaddy need between 5-7 days to transfers the domain are purchased to the buyer's account. Once the domain belongs to the buyer, the buyer sell it back at this forum on a domain sale. And it seems legitimate that the domain is valid. Do we also say that GoDaddy is fraudster? Because GoDaddy was selling high fake PR domain and then on the next update to be valid? Please explain to me The Master Samdar.

    I understand there are many high PR domains comes from the fake PR. During the site gets a good backlink and SEO, it will last a long time. But not rule out going down PR. So, I think don't panic and then report to Matt Cutts. It sounds so funny. :lol:
     
    okayface, Dec 5, 2011 IP
  10. foofighters

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    #70
    thanks for this, didn't know about it
     
    foofighters, Dec 6, 2011 IP
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    agoes182 Peon

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    linkstrade Active Member

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    #72
    how do you check that domain pr is fake?

     
    linkstrade, Dec 9, 2011 IP
  13. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #73
    I typically employ a bit of deductive reasoning first.

    If it's a directory, has a PR of say 7 or so... I will look at the directory, look at wayback machine, do a whois, google cache, etc.. It's fairly easy to discern a legitimate site from one that smells of bs.
     
    Mia, Dec 9, 2011 IP
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    #74
    Thanks for the info, this was confusing the hell out of me - I've received several offers selling links on the "pr9" site "henkel-water".

    I assumed the owner had somehow hacked into a ton of .udu and .gov sites after checking the backlinks and seeing links from a ton of university websites and what-not.. This makes a little more sense.
     
    S2X, Dec 28, 2011 IP
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    #75
    Thank you for creating the awareness for buying the domains..I will careful from the next time..
     
    angelseo, Dec 28, 2011 IP
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    WallaceYeung Notable Member

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    #76
    Hi Samdar, how do you think about this fake PR site?
    dir name dot com

     
    WallaceYeung, Dec 28, 2011 IP
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    androgine28 Peon

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    #77
    I'd already checked the domain before. Because you said it isusing the method.
     
    Last edited: Dec 29, 2011
    androgine28, Dec 29, 2011 IP
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    acethegunnerzzz Peon

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    #78
    because they left footprints that it was using 301 redirection....for example spasat(dot)com.. it used to have "Universitas 21" tagline in its header before...but it's gone now
     
    acethegunnerzzz, Dec 29, 2011 IP
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    WallaceYeung Notable Member

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    #79
    Wow, it's a PR10 web directory! ;)
    the submission fee is also not cheap!
    PR is not reliable anymore.

    Featured links $107.50 - LifeTime
    Regular links $57.50 - LifeTime

     
    WallaceYeung, Dec 29, 2011 IP
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    #80
    After reading, Maybe I should throw in a penny thought.
    My conclusion of all this is Pagerank is fast becoming the new alexarank. It is very easily manipulated and holds not as much power as it used to, well only in terms of advertising.
    There are many ways to manipulate pagerank as OP already stated and unless due diligence is taken, even an expert will fall victim!
    I found this thread and you might wanna read out too.
    I will also like to point out not to rely solely on the page cache displayed next to the arrow in google as this does not always hold true,its a 50/50 chance.
    With a very strong interlinking, a 3 month old domain can achieve a high PR, it does take a little hardwork and a technical know how of what you doing.
    If you are such that want to go after PR, I would advice you go after aged PR only. For example, arandompr9site.com that has links to its pages with N/A PR says a lot of stories and you should thread with caution, hardly do you find an established PR9 site with its inbound links from the homepage displaying N/A.
    Just a thought.
     
    Nusaint, Jan 2, 2012 IP