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Is peace possible or just a naive dream?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Spoiltdiva, Sep 17, 2011.

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    If one wants to decipher all the differences between us one merely has to go on this forum.We have different cultures,languages,races,religions,politics,genders etc.There are so many issues that divide us and indeed all of humanity.When I think on this it just seems that peace is impossible.Is humanity doomed to fight until the end of time?
    There has never been a time in history where there hasn't been war.Hell we can't even come together on P&R.It's always we are right,the other guy is hopelessly wrong.We all debate,no quarter asked,none given.When it's all over nothing has been gained,only new resentments formed.We are much like a small United Nations on here.They can't seem to ever resolve anything either.
    Any thoughts on this,or do you feel that peace is just a naive dream?
     
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    ApocalypseXL Notable Member

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    As long as there will be a massive competition for basic resources this will never stop . The world could be at peace only if every man , woman and child would have its fill . For that you would need to stop overpopulation which is already a run amok problem in quite a lot of places .
     
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    Spoiltdiva Acclaimed Member

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    Agreed,poverty and lack of equality sort of excludes the notion of peace.
     
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    Those who are free of resentful thoughts surely find peace. .Buddha
     
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    Spoiltdiva Acclaimed Member

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    That is really quite beautiful,I've never heard that quote before.:)
     
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    Warner Active Member

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    Peace is somewhere close to us and it streams to us, but we are like little kids always want to have adventures as well. In peaceful world it will be boring and those who want to live aggressively and actively in constant war really continue such world's condition. So peace is not a naive dream, but a far star and we have to gain it.:)
     
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  7. Spoiltdiva

    Spoiltdiva Acclaimed Member

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    @Warner
    Describing peace as "a far star" is a good way of putting it.Peace is a beautiful thing but elusive.I have maintained in more than a few posts that we need less historians and politicians here on P&R and more philosophers.Hope to see more of you on here.:)
     
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  8. Polite teen

    Polite teen Guest

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    Peace is unseen, though it is there.

    Like brother Buddha said
    Thanks bharatmax.
     
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    Seqqa Well-Known Member

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    You'll also notice that intelligence and aggression go hand in hand, most predictors are intelligent because they have to out smart their pray. Like ApocalypseXL said, competition for resources will only ever increase. Due to that extra competition aggression tends to increase. Although mankind can't exist without some kind of cooperation, it's almost impossible. Which is why we've build a world and an economy where we all do something for someone else.
     
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    Spoiltdiva Acclaimed Member

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    The word you are searching for is "predators" not "predictors".I'm not a natural speaker of English but even I can't help but notice how you continually manage to screw up the English language.Are you not educated?
     
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    Seqqa Well-Known Member

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    See what I mean about you and trying to provoke an argument about an unrelated topic. If you want an argument about the English language, open a thread. I'm sure someone will entertain it for a while before they get bored. How do you know I'm not posting off a phone that uses predicted text like an iphone?

    You only make yourself look uneducated.
     
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    Spoiltdiva Acclaimed Member

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    Now,now let's watch that little old temper.........:)
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #13
    Have you thought about not personally insulting people? Nearly every thread I see you in you are spewing some invective at people.
     
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  14. Spoiltdiva

    Spoiltdiva Acclaimed Member

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    Do you think that a kinder gentler diva is what is called for? But daaaarling,that just wouldn't be me.:)
     
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    Poverty and lack of equality have nothing to do with this . Competition for natural resources and overpopulation are two hard , cold realities that we must confront whether we like this or not .

    @Spiltdiva the /b/ section of 4chan.org would provide you with all the attention you desire :D
     
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    Spoiltdiva Acclaimed Member

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    No I disagree with you.Poverty has been a driving force throughout the ages for turmoil(anti peace).It has caused revolutions and social upheavals.Riots and looting.......poverty causes people to feel desperate and gives people a feeling like they have nothing to lose so they take up arms.Poverty and peace are in direct competition with each other.
     
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    Seqqa Well-Known Member

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    IsraeI Peon

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    Poverty is sometimes a reason for conflict, e.g. America (poor and in debt) goes into Iraq to steal its oil, or Zionists (who had no land) steal land from another people.

    But there are many other reasons for turmoil such as wanting to be in power and rule over others, racial supremacy, greed .... etc.
     
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    You have merely accented my original point.Namely that when all is considered,peace is nothing more than a naive dream.When I ponder this,I could weep.
     
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    conspiracy 911.jpg

    and that's why conspiracy theories are stupid :eek:
     
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