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anna hazare against corruption ...

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ayushi infotech, Aug 16, 2011.

  1. chunnumunnu

    chunnumunnu Active Member

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    #61
    corruption can be curb by atleast 70 to 75% alone using lokpal bill. The Next move it to break the mutual cooperation between the politicians (Power and Opposition), For breaking this mutual cooperation Next Move is Right to choose representatives. Right now we have to select the one thief from 2 to 5 thief but after The the law of right to choose representatives there will be one more option i.e None of these! .. So if 51% go To None then We will face the new faces instead of old one again and again. This move will force politicians to do social welfare instead of their family welfare. If they don't do social work then They will completely vanish in next elections Which means Only good people will survive in politics. So that will act as addons to nation and we can curb around 90% collectively (Jan lok pal bill as well as right to choose representative) .. 8% Futher can be removed if people stop offering money or when people will file case against the person who offer bribe and who accept it.

    In short , We can remove it by 98% we just need transparency and strong will. I personally don't think 100% because atleast 2% will undercover for sure! .. That 2% corruption will made when two deserving companies fighting for a common tender from govt.

    Many people will think that this may not work.. We just need to make strict laws against govt personals. Life time imprisonment, Hang till death and recovery of loses by selling his/her personal asset. Then official will think atleast 5 times before accepting bribe :D
     
    chunnumunnu, Aug 21, 2011 IP
  2. janiepetter

    janiepetter Peon

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    #62
    Absolutely right spoiltdiva.Indians respect their elders more than anything.Children are very close to their parents.Their parents blessings help them in fighting with any problem.
     
    janiepetter, Aug 21, 2011 IP
  3. atvking

    atvking Active Member

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    #63
    corruption never ends...you may be able to curb a little of the low level corruption but the real problems lie in high end high politics corruption...the kind of corruption that leads to your country taking MMF loans and making deals with the "honest honest" politicians in the west... you see to survive in politics you must do as the west says...and the west is no charity organisation...nothing is for "free"...just look at how the west cheats its own people with the banking crap and you will get a good picture of that lies in your future on a local level only worse...
     
    atvking, Aug 22, 2011 IP
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    krishatnet Well-Known Member

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    #64
    All the best to anna hazare
     
    krishatnet, Aug 22, 2011 IP
  5. chunnumunnu

    chunnumunnu Active Member

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    Indian Democracy is little different here! .. Govt. can fall anytime if people stand against it :) .. Govt in India brought Lokpal Bill to curb corruption, Obviously it was brought by govt so nothing is good in that bill but Now Social Workers brought a bill that is really very strict against corruption which include even Prime Minister of India. Higher level officers need to protect their reputation also they will atleast think twice before accepting bribe. Govt Declined it but when millions of people protest against the govt for their move, Now govt is ready to debate on the issue. Hopefully if Jan Lokpal bill pass then we will see the change ;)

    A Comman man can only protest and Hope for the best. If we Unite then Govt will and corruption will fall and vice versa!
     
    chunnumunnu, Aug 22, 2011 IP
  6. The Webby

    The Webby Peon

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    #66
    To end the corruption, people need to kill corruption within themselves. When people are corrupt, no matter how many bills and laws are passed, corruption will never end.
     
    The Webby, Aug 23, 2011 IP
  7. Tedel

    Tedel Well-Known Member

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    #67
    Just redesign steps to make corruption impossible.
     
    Tedel, Aug 23, 2011 IP
  8. robjones

    robjones Notable Member

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    #68
    Politics puts men in the position of making decisions that effect large groups with regards to allocation of scarce resources. That means those with that decision making capacity will face the following temptations:
    • To vote in a way to that gives unmerited favor or advantage to themselves and their friends
    • To legislate in favor of monied powers that can reward them for their vote
    • To use their power to settle personal scores with those they dislike

    As long as those opportunities exist, legislation may discourage corruption or make it easier to spot, but cant end it. Power corrupts, that's just human nature, and any solution that requires human nature to change is not a solution, it's a fantasy.

    Legislation cannot eliminate corruption in poltics any more than a broom can clear all the sand and dirt off a beach.
     
    robjones, Aug 23, 2011 IP
  9. The Webby

    The Webby Peon

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    #69
    Well said Rob, couldn't agree more..
     
    The Webby, Aug 23, 2011 IP
  10. Spoiltdiva

    Spoiltdiva Acclaimed Member

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    #70
    It is possible that some of you may be missing the point.It's not laws that change society but ideals.The Lokpal bill is an idea of change,a recognition that Indian society needs to be governed honestly and without corruption.Will it work?.... Of course it won't,we are talking about human nature afterall.But at least it's a step in the right direction and the "people" have spoken and someone it appears....has been listening.
     
    Spoiltdiva, Aug 23, 2011 IP
  11. deluxdon

    deluxdon Catch Me If You Can...!!!™ Staff

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    #71
    When you travel in train without a ticket, that's corruption.

    When you bribe the traffic police for not wearing a helmet or breaking the signal, that's corruption.

    When you tell your dad to pay donation and get you admitted in the best college of town, that's corruption.

    Before marching around and shouting slogans, please try and BE THE CHANGE yourself. We all support Anna for the fight against corruption. But corruption will not end by just wearing a Gandhi Cap with I AM ANNA written on it. Corruption will not end by just pressing LIKE Button on millions of Facebook pages that says I SUPPORT ANNA.. DO YOU ?? Corruption will not end by just adding a Badge on ur Facebook pic.

    Corruption will not end by sending hate mails & sms. Hum me se kitne log ye shapath le sakte hain ke aaj ke baad hum kabhi bhi kisi ko paise nahi denge chahe wo sales tax officer ho, income tax officer ho, central exice officer ya fir ek ordinary traffic hawaldar hi kyon na ho.. If u really want to eradicate Corruption than begin from ur office, ur home, from urself.

    THINK WISELY

    DON.
     
    deluxdon, Aug 23, 2011 IP
  12. ayushi infotech

    ayushi infotech Peon

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    #72
    I agree with your points ...but is not possible..your third point

    Ex: we did not give donation and follow this means we did not get seat in any colleges, others will

    give donation and join in that colleges....
     
    ayushi infotech, Aug 23, 2011 IP
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    BeirutMarketing Member

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    #73
    It could be possible, if college admissions were based on merit alone, not who donated the most money or who has the best political connections.
     
    BeirutMarketing, Aug 24, 2011 IP
  14. ayushi infotech

    ayushi infotech Peon

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    govt only colleges only see marks but private colleges and universities see only money....we did not do anything having only marks we have money than only all work will done..
     
    ayushi infotech, Aug 24, 2011 IP
  15. The Webby

    The Webby Peon

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    And that's why folks, I do not have hopes for lokpal bill...
     
    The Webby, Aug 24, 2011 IP
  16. The Webby

    The Webby Peon

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    #76
    By stop spreading corruption. We don't need to fight corruption, we need to end corruption within ourselves.
     
    The Webby, Aug 24, 2011 IP
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    ayushi infotech Peon

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    But i think the Lok Paal Bill will reduce to keeping money in Swiss bank, and common wealth game , Adarsh home etc...
     
    ayushi infotech, Aug 24, 2011 IP
  18. The Webby

    The Webby Peon

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    #78
    You think wrong.
     
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    ayushi infotech Peon

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    we can't able to say before itself "Lok paal bill" will help or not, we wait and see........
     
    ayushi infotech, Aug 24, 2011 IP
  20. The Webby

    The Webby Peon

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    Sure, that's what we have been doing for last 63 years.. Waiting.....
     
    The Webby, Aug 24, 2011 IP