Global Warming - Mankind might have got a second chance

I woke up today to some unbelievable news .

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110614/ts_afp/usspacesun

http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/06/14/6857473-solar-forecast-hints-at-a-big-chill

In an incredible turn of events this offers us just enough time to exterminate global worming and secure the energy future of our planet . Although global warming will still be a major problem we will not be exterminated by run amok global warming if we continue to fight greenhouse gas emissions and continue to move away from fossil fuels .

If this information will be further confirmed we can focus our resources to implement and secure freedom and peace at a global scale (democracy and freedom in China anyone ?) . Given the fact that this cooling is predicted to last for 70 years we will have just about enough time to finish researching and deploy fusion power .

In my book humanity's chance of survival jumped from @55% to 90% .

Opinions ladies and gentlemen ?

 

I have done research paper after research paper on global warming in college. Its a fact that global warming is not "Man Made" but "Natural". The earth is in a 11,000 year cycle of ice age and warming. This was done on carbon tests in the arctic ice. We can see that it happens on average every 11,000 but can speed up or slow down sometimes.

There are millions of volcanoes under the ocean that let out carbon and methane (methane traps heat 3X more then carbon) and emits it through the ocean to the atmosphere. They have been very active the last 100 years. Rift Valley Etc.

As the earths green zone traps more heat aka chemicals in the green zone and is not letting it out to space it causes CLIMATE CHANGE NOT BURNING HOT SUMMERS. IT CAN CAUSE WEIRD WEATHER ALL THE TIME.

HOW??? The worlds climate is controlled by the GREAT CONVEYOR BELT which is major oceans currents around the whole world.

As the Fresh water melts into the extremely salty ARCTIC OCEAN it causes the great conveyor belt to SLOW DOWN. The oceans currents control the JET STREAM ETC and temps in ocean.

They did studys on the major currents under the ocean and have seen that they are slowing DOWN ALOT. They predict that once stopped the WORLD WILL HAVE ANOTHER ICE AGE UNTIL THE FRESHWATER IS TRAPPED AGAIN in the ARCTIC.

All the green stuff is just a way to get off of oil. It will not help the world.

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Apo, you believe in GW? Now thats a wow

 

I just gave my master degree and the subject was global warming

@securesite You're barking at the wrong tree dude . If you would have took meteorology and climatology classes it would have been easy for you to spot the rapid rise in temperature . Global warming it exists , it's not a theorem , it's a proven fact and it is a menace to everyone .

 

To believe that one or both of the following statements would have to be false.
1) Co2 is a 'greenhouse gas'
2) mankind is releasing vast quantities of Co2.

Which one of those statements is false? If both are true, how can you hold that earth climate isn't impacted on by our actions?

The earth does have climate cycles, but to deny the correlation between rapidly increased temperature in the earth climate and the release of millions of tons of Co2 by us in the last hundred years simply isn't supported by any of the evidence.

 

Thats what I just said I know Global Warming exists its MORE NATURAL CAUSES THEN MAN MADE........

Once again I know Man Made global warming is a factor but its nothing to the NATURAL Volcanoes under the ocean letting off Carbon and methane. We have LITTLE IMPACT ON GLOBAL WARMING. With our COMBINED AMOUNT BEING LET OFF we have reached the highest level.

This just means that the ice age will happen alot sooner then previous cycles.

 

The biggest problem that prevents us to prevent global warming is money. It's simply not profitable to create cars powered by clean energy like compressed air or solar power. People think more about money than the future of our planet and our species.

 

Is it a SECOND chance or the FIFTIETH chance? What makes the OP think we're only up to the second chance when we have had thousands of official meetings and opportunities to change our ways?

Even then, the answer, they say is to make everything MORE expensive so we will use less of it but the second the price of electricity or petrol rises it gets blamed on 'politicians' who are promptly chucked out of power and prices come down again.

It seems if we have to pay extra, it's not gonna happen.

Here we are about to introduce carbon trading. Personally, I think it is the wrong way to do it as the billions given in handouts to the heavy polluters should instead be invested in much cheaper renewables.

Rather than change the whole economy to be generating more money, and putting more costs on everything, they should smack down the coal industry whilst investing their grants money into renewables.

Once you have the renewable infrastructures in place, providing that to the people would be soooo much cheaper.

The problem I see is they're trying to make a whole new economy out of GW instead of working with what we have.

 

We have evolved to deal with the effects of natural greenhouse gasses and the climates cycles. The point isn't that greenhouse gasses are inherently bad, they are vital to life on earth, the point is that too much causes an unnatural change in climate that we have not, and can not, evolve to deal with and which effects the climate cycles of the planet.

Of course we have greenhouse effects now, otherwise the planet would be 100sºF during the day and -100sºF at night. The water vapour released by the seas, the Co2 released by volcanos, the methane released by thawing ice sheets and swamps are all vital to sustaining the climate that we have evolved to function in. The problem arrises when we start contributing our own greenhouse gasses to the system and altering how that system has functioned over thousands of years.

It's nice to see the deniers argument has evolved from "we aren't having an effect" to "we are having an effect, but it's a small one". Give it a few years and you'll, unfortunately, be forced to resort to "we were having a massive effect, but it's too late now".

 

Not just A factor it is the BIGGEST factor and a catalyst . And please spare us of the natural ice age cycle crap the ice ages are as natural as a F-22 Raptor . Even assuming this wildcard theory is correct the last Ice Age ended just 10.000 years ago we're good to go for another hundred million years . If you think of global warming just in terms of CO2 emissions you might want to think about the massive deforestation that took place since the industrial revolution started .

The global warming menace that we face is not a natural phenomenon it is our doing .

The biggest problem is political idiocy and THE BLEEPING LACK OF A ENERGY SOURCE . Cars power by compressed air still need energy as for solar powered cars their technology is unreliable , expensive as hell and just unpractical .

So you're gonna provide green energy to fuel the planetary needs . Do some freaking research and see how unpractical that is from technological , political and economic point of views . The only thin that green energy can do is slow down GW until we will unlock the power of controlled fusion .

 

Your wrong about a 100 million years before the next ice age. Thats physically impossible because the cycles the past 450,000 years is right in the ice. Take a look at this picture .

I Predict alot sooner for the next ice age 15,000 years and alot of scientist see it this way also. The carbon levels are at the highest ever and the polar ice caps are melting like crazy slowing down the worlds climate controlled by the oceans current. We are speeding it up alot and the wild weather is just the first factor of a complete slow down.

 

It's easy to manipulate chart to tell a different story .

 

My chart measures the periods of glacial changes in ice by testing chemical changes deep in the ice. Its also based on 450,000 year scale.

Yours is measuring isotopes in fossils and is charted in 542 MILLION YEARS LOL. Alot of happen from that 50 million year mark to 0 LOL.

 

Ya glacial cycles happed , but not ages . I still find it amazing that you have the ignorance to go against the entire scientific community and talk such nonsexist that GW is a natural cycle that we barley influence .

Here are the glacial cycles :

 

My opinion is that if you're really into ecology and stuff like that, then you can only wish for humanity extinction. If not then you're fooling yourself.
Humanity is polluting the earth and killing the wildlife, its population is growing exponentially, it's obviously not good for ecology that we have more and more people on earth.

 

Global warning is not dangerous for our planet earth, don't fool yourself, people are making a big deal about it only because they would suffer from more heat, not because earth is in danger. It's not in danger of anything, don't worry about it and stop being hypocrits.