Self-proclaimed SEO experts - eh, shut up

Who put that on my sig?

Oh my, you don't think... could it be possible? Could I be ... one?

Bah, words are useless. If seo puts $$$$$ on your table, your a f]king seo expert. Not too hard a concept to grasp, I guess.

 

Make your sig clickable and lets see what you got...LMAO!

 

Hi GuruCreation,

I understand what you are saying. But, imho, putting your company in sight in front of the competition is not a wise idea. No need to attract bad attention. I 've been riping off clients from local competitors for a long time. How? I visits their site, see them bragging and I go offer their clients a better deal. Or, if that's not possible, I get the keyword, rank a minisite and sell it to a competitor of their client.

My business strategy is not the usual, here 's a list of my clients, I did this and this and that. On the contrary, I never ever disclose my customer list to any potential customer.
Why?
Being #1 on G is about trust. People see the site and say, hey, if he is there, hanging on #1, he must be at least half-good. In my (small) country, most normal people don't realize that #1 can be bought for money. My customers like it that way.

How do I prove I can deliver to a potential customer? Simple, I create totally ugly sites and I rank them for sweet keywords. "hey, mr customer, if I can rank this one shitty page for THAT keyword, imaging what I can do for your site".

Here 's the important part!
My first post is not about bragging. It 's about definition. If anyone makes good money from SEO, he is by definition an seo expert.

 

Ok, I understand now it is clear to me that he is referring to those SEO wannabees.

 

check this article:

http://www.ranksurge.com/sem-is-like-investing-in-the-stock-market.htm

I've heard this mentioned before in regards to seo. Since there is no government regulated way to verify the expertise of a so-called "expert", we all have to rely on common sense, due diligence and sometimes you just have to go with your instincts.

Proclaiming one' self as an "seo expert" is just marketing. If someone buys from a vendor without verifying their credentials,well then they get what they deserve.

just my $.02

 

As for Digital point growing too quickly, probably yes. It has shrunk since. Does that mean there's no valuable knowledge here? Hardly. I think there's a lot of value to some of the content on this forum. It's just a matter of knowing how to separate the wheat from the chaff. The more you know the more you can diffrentiate between useful information and garbage. This forum could be considered one more tool in your internet marketing. Use it right, it'll help you; use it wrong, it won't.

The "experts" here may be or they may not be. As someone up there said, "expert" is a relative term.

I'd focus on bringing valuable stuff to the table rather than worrying about the people on here who talk big yet can't back it up.

 

I agree with the OPs core point. The boards have been blanketed with get rich quick offers and brash announcements of great wealth. All so poorly written that only an idiot would believe the claims. One in two hundred posts actually has anything useful. Possibly create forum sections based on geo-located IP blocks to screen out some of the more blatant scammers? [let the flames begin]

But really, do people come here to read an endless series of poorly written infomercials?

 

Nothing wrong. You can claim yourself as GOD even. Who cares Really who cares!

 

Hahaha true good one !

 

I guess he just had a terrible fight with her wife ... and he doesn't seem to find a better place then DP to anguish his anger

TBH, if all newbies will just shut up, then DP would be heading towards depression in no time

because not less then 80% of the population here are learners as with many other forums

 

Why not?


Does self claim means any sense!

Claiming as EXPERT, BEST are as claiming as GOD, GODMAN etc etc.

 

I don't have problems with people who claim to be SEO experts, some are obviously more proficient then others, but on the whole you get what you deserve if you don't understand the overall process, which is a simple enough thing.

You write good quality content, you somehow find good quality inbound links.

Like you longwindedly said, this is the crux of the matter.

What I have a problem with, on this forum, is the fact it is an English speaking forum but quite often you have to interpret what is written. then when you do figure out what has been intended to be written, you realise it is still a load of garbage.

This isn't racism, it's a fact. Some people on this forum ARE stupid, or don't understand the basic's of the language they are trying to sell in.

 

I think English usage is also having variations now a days. English of your place definately won't match English of Internet.

More to add, Internet was not invented to create differences but to remove differences and to make united this world. You should understand the basic of Internet History before you use neglecting behaviour.

Never discourage anybody. No matter who he is, and who you are.

 

I would discourage anybody from using poor English, or any language they are writing in.

Would you buy a novel written in poor dialect? Not a chance. Neither would I purchase from a website with poor quality language and Grammar.

If you disagree, I can only sumise from your response that you don't have English as your primary language, and do not understand fully what I said.

English is English, full stop, there is no variation for "internet"

You are either proficient, or you are not.

 

Furthermore, Matt Cutts has also suggested that the Google Algorythym weed's out poorly structured language, as it is often the symptom of a content spinner, which they are trying to avoid, so should your English be poor, you may find yourself on the end of a google penalty with them believing you are spinning articles.

 

What you say is not mandatory that we need to acknowledge it too.

Who is he to suggest Google? Google is Google. As you said English is English.

 

I don't have a problem with people calling themselves experts, although I prefer the term specialists. It just a way to market themselves, I guess. Besides, it's not big of a deal coz I suppose not all people are stupid enough to believe them by virtue of their constant self-proclamations, right?

 

As a professional developer who has worked with high paid SEO specialists, I can assure you there is a scale of quality and the results they produce. I do agree that with many industries and professions people falsely claiming to be something they aren't is frustrating.

 

Exactly right.

 

Well, I'm tired of the n00bs claiming that they know SEO, when they don't know CRAP.
Seriously, its annoying.