Different between Black Hat and White Hat SEO techniques?

WTF? See below...

Nope - don't agree. Short term maybe, but you risk a ban. I encourage people to report sites utilising obvious black hat techniques.

It's not black hat if you follow the guidelines published by the SE's. It is completely legit to optimise your site to rank well, that's not black hat. It becomes black hat if you do things that go against the guidelines in an attempt to cheat.

 

So the search engines are the internet police? Who gave them the authority to make the "rules of the internet"? As long as their silly algorithms rely on incoming links and on page content, there are going to be people manipulating those factors. Now weather or not you do it over time by hand or with a piece of software is really where the difference lies.

 

WTF? There is optimising a site, then there is blackhat.

 

to those who said WTF...

"On WickedFire, someone posted some questions about what were the differences between white and black hat. Shoemoney made a very valid point, and said that he considers ALL SEO as a BH. Which he is absolutely right about. I don’t care if you are the straightest most ethical person in the world. If you are utilizing SEO on your sites, you are in turn using what should be considered BH. I say this because BH is defined as a way to manipulate the search engines to rank your site better."


Source: http://www.aojon.com/a-look-into-the-dark-arts-of-seo/

 

BH doesn't comply with the webmaster guidelines, that's the difference.

 

Lots of people think any SEO is black hat, and that's true. Altering your page to try to get higher on a search engine is unnatural, but everyone does it, so it's become a business now. However, some ways are worse than others, like keyword stuffing, things like that. There are many unknown black hat techniques that work very well but is a big cheat.

 

Any SEO is blackhat seo BECAUSE of the webmaster guidelines. It states that ANY attempt to inflate ranking by linking or optimization is AGAINST the webmaster guidelines. Everything we do is in an attempt to inflate rankings.

 

Here is a blog post I made a few months ago http://www.simplifiedsec.com/seoblog/?p=10

 

SEO is black hat - white hat is SEC - Search Engine Compliant (as opposed to Optimization)

 

Calling all SEO blackhat is like saying all marketing is illegal.

 

At time moment in time, I would consider SEO completely different from general marketing. SEO is about optimizing not based on what people want or think they want - by it's very definition is about appealing to search engines.

Marketing is trying to appeal to people wants, dreams and needs. Perhaps there is some similarity when it comes to product placement. Now if you say internet marketing then there are a lot of similarities.

 

Isn't SEO trying to appeal to what search engines want, dream and need?

 

Do search engines dream? Hmm... maybe one day they will.

 

They do - of Electric Sheep.

 

I think you're misinterpreting what black hat means, if you think all SEO falls into that category. Black hat doesn't mean doing things to rank well, it means doing things to rank well that fall outside of the guidelines set out by the SEs.

And no, 1Eight, the SEs don't rule the internet but they do rule the SERPs, which is what we are talking about...

 

'tis a slippery slope - once you start down it, people start creating artificial boundries - this is BH - that is WH - etc. I see it as a binary decision point - you either do something to manipulate (yes, manipulate) the search engines OR you do not. Simple as that.

 

mmm... Could someone really List a few things in Black hat SEO. This could really help people who are looking at the difference. I have jotted down a few points which differentiate them both. I will put on the list of things soon. I hope that there would be more additions soon to the list

 

what Shoemoney is pretty much spot on, anybody who claims to know SEO is a black-hatter in a nutshell.

Problam is it's not that easy to categories anything these days so people break it down further having 'white hats' and 'black hats' both aim for the same result going a variaty of paths to get there, some easy, some plain ugly some taking many months to take proper effect

 

You have a point, ANY SEO but not all are black hat.

What you mean is all SEOs uses unethical techniques, but it doesn't mean that all SEOs are black hatters

They're not just cute... THEY ARE HOT!!!

 

That's a good analogy but there are some differences. Marketing is a way to get people to see you, and you pay directly for it. With SEs, you don't pay for your ranking. In a perfect world it would be completely natural.