1. Advertising
    y u no do it?

    Advertising (learn more)

    Advertise virtually anything here, with CPM banner ads, CPM email ads and CPC contextual links. You can target relevant areas of the site and show ads based on geographical location of the user if you wish.

    Starts at just $1 per CPM or $0.10 per CPC.

Google traffic up, Yahoo traffic flat, any ideas why?

Discussion in 'Yahoo' started by cazort, Mar 11, 2011.

  1. #1
    One of my sites has had a clear, statistically-significant trend of upward google traffic over the past 6 months. Google makes up, of course, most of the search traffic, but Yahoo, the second-up search engine, is still a substantial chunk of it.

    I've noticed that the Yahoo traffic has been basically flat (some ups and downs but nothing statistically significant) over the same six-month period.

    I have a lot of keyword data but I don't know what to look at. The engines do send traffic from somewhat different keywords and the rankings are different but I don't know where to start.

    Has anyone had a similar experience? Any idea how to figure out what's going on?
     
    cazort, Mar 11, 2011 IP
  2. ForgottenCreature

    ForgottenCreature Notable Member

    Messages:
    7,443
    Likes Received:
    168
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    260
    #2
    I'm not getting as much traffic from Yahoo either, so I'm interesting in what others have to say as well.
     
    ForgottenCreature, Mar 11, 2011 IP
  3. hhsaus

    hhsaus Active Member

    Messages:
    596
    Likes Received:
    10
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    60
    #3
    Take a look at Yahoo Search Clues to see how your target keywords are performing.
    http://clues.yahoo.com/

    My guess is that you've probably moved up in Google SERPs hence the increase in traffic, while Yahoo/Bing serps have stayed flat.

    You may also have some decent rankings on Google for specific keywords but have no rank on Yahoo/Bing. Yahoo (powered by Bing) seems to be heavily influenced by decent backlinks, and they are also slower at indexing. So if you don't have a few backlinks to support some of your keywords the chance are your pages are not shown anywhere on Bing/Yahoo whereas they have a decent rank on Google. I have this issue with a couple of keywords; good rank on Google but no rank on Yahoo/Bing.
     
    hhsaus, Mar 11, 2011 IP
  4. gcfmarketing

    gcfmarketing Peon

    Messages:
    25
    Likes Received:
    1
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #4
    Well, first off, Google changes and adjusts their algorithm like most girls change clothes. Yahoo and Bing truly are playing catch up with this. But you have to do more link building with Yahoo and Bing.

    It doesn't matter what you are doing, you have to realize the differences between them. What works for one doesn't always work for the other, but there is a bit of a conversion difference too with the traffic from one to the other with ppc traffic.
     
    gcfmarketing, Mar 12, 2011 IP
  5. drewtoby

    drewtoby Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    763
    Likes Received:
    4
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    108
    #5
    I agree with him
     
    drewtoby, Mar 12, 2011 IP
  6. makeit easy

    makeit easy Active Member

    Messages:
    2,067
    Likes Received:
    62
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    90
    #6
    Yahoo traffic is stable since Yahoo doesn't punish or reward any site for no reason.
     
    makeit easy, Mar 12, 2011 IP
  7. krishnaegurus

    krishnaegurus Peon

    Messages:
    432
    Likes Received:
    3
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #7
    You might have optimized your website only for google now for Yahoo. Both Google and Yahoo algorithms are different so you need to follow or sum up ways in order to get ranked well in all search engines. Try to know what works well with Yahoo
     
    krishnaegurus, Mar 17, 2011 IP
  8. lifeplayer

    lifeplayer Notable Member

    Messages:
    15,609
    Likes Received:
    475
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    265
    #8
    same happen to me, i believed it due to no increase on the yahoo search user
     
    lifeplayer, Mar 17, 2011 IP
  9. cazort

    cazort Peon

    Messages:
    276
    Likes Received:
    8
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #9
    Thanks everyone.

    My experience is that google generally doesn't penalize sites for no reason. I've gotten a google penalty once, on one site, for using hidden text that was in my page due to an error in my javascript (no malicious intentions). When I fixed it, google quickly removed the penalty. I was active on the google webmaster forums some time ago, and I noticed that many of the webmasters posting there complaining about penalties were actually using quite a few black-hat techniques. If you steer clear from these, your chance of a penalty is very low, and, like what happened with me, you should be able to work it out relatively easily.
     
    cazort, Mar 17, 2011 IP
  10. usrecord

    usrecord Peon

    Messages:
    192
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #10
    And this what my problem also in yahoo. The ranking seems not steady and low traffic. It looks like lots of us experience same problem with yahoo ranking.
     
    usrecord, Mar 17, 2011 IP
  11. ganz_syshacks

    ganz_syshacks Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    335
    Likes Received:
    3
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    110
    #11
    Clues will help a lot. Thanks @hhsaus for sharing tht :)
     
    ganz_syshacks, Mar 18, 2011 IP
  12. mx187

    mx187 Peon

    Messages:
    26
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #12
    I gave up on yahoo. Trying to keep up with google is a fulltime job without adding another search enigne in the mix. Plus google give me plenty of traffic
     
    mx187, Mar 26, 2011 IP
  13. makeit easy

    makeit easy Active Member

    Messages:
    2,067
    Likes Received:
    62
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    90
    #13
    It's a very bad strategy. All of your eggs are in the same basket. When G drops your rankings for no reason you should have another place to go.
     
    makeit easy, Mar 26, 2011 IP
  14. mx187

    mx187 Peon

    Messages:
    26
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #14
    I dont mean to sound conceded but ive never had any issues with google dropping my rankings for no reason. The thing is, if google drops your rankings there is always a reason for it. But if you build quality sites with tons of information and your not just trying to sell something than you shouldn't have a problem.
     
    mx187, Mar 26, 2011 IP
  15. makeit easy

    makeit easy Active Member

    Messages:
    2,067
    Likes Received:
    62
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    90
    #15
    You can't know all of the reasons why your site receives traffic from G.
    Of course there should be some reasons when that traffic was lost. As webmasters, we can never know all of the reasons how G ranks the search results. We can only guess some of the reasons which we read somewhere like "quality sites", "tons of information", "not just trying to sell something", etc.
    Since I can't know all of the reasons then I can say that rankings can drop for no reason.
     
    makeit easy, Mar 26, 2011 IP