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Google's Giant Sandbox

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by Chrissicom, Feb 9, 2005.

  1. whitedovecleaning

    whitedovecleaning Peon

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    #21
    maybe if ya greesed googles pokets with a add would that help?
    pay the keeper of the sandbox to play?
     
    whitedovecleaning, Apr 22, 2005 IP
  2. Old Welsh Guy

    Old Welsh Guy Notable Member

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    #22
    Nope Gogle adwords and their organic algo are not intertwined. Although there are plenty of conspiracy theorists out there who willswear otherwise.
     
    Old Welsh Guy, Apr 22, 2005 IP
  3. whitedovecleaning

    whitedovecleaning Peon

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    #23
    Conspiracy theorys apart!
    You mean goggle is a perfect honest company with integrity close to Jesus himself, no temptations. They have a perfect management and are unseated by large clients paying hundreds of thousands of dollars in advertisements (ebay for example).
    This plays no part in their top page rank somehow?

    Call me naive (since this is speculation on my behalf)
    But if someone advertised on my website and paid me $100,000 and another person paid me $1.00 to advertise on my site, you bet dollars to doughnuts my $100,000 dollar client would have the biggest, badest and most exposure on my site! Unless of course im in the business just for the comradery and friendship I will acquire.
     
    whitedovecleaning, Apr 22, 2005 IP
  4. flyguy

    flyguy Peon

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  5. flyguy

    flyguy Peon

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    #25
    Here's a question.
    For those who have came out of the sandbox, what was your PR at the time you were released? Any thoughts on a connection between PR and sand box release?
     
    flyguy, Apr 23, 2005 IP
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    Dreamshop Peon

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    #26
    Hey flyguy,

    I've not seen anything consistent to show that PR is part of the equation. I had several sites "pop out" of the sandbox after the February update. Their PR was really all over the board. I also have some brand new sites (0 PR on the toolbar) that are rocking for regional based terms. The older sites I'd begun optimizing around April through June of last year. One site which I started working on September is still nowhere to be found,

    Clearly time and the competitive level of keywords plays a part. Ahhhh....so many pieces to the puzzle. :rolleyes:
     
    Dreamshop, Apr 23, 2005 IP
  7. mizt

    mizt Active Member

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    #27
    With that Sandbox filter thing it says I'm #2. Yeah buddy got to get back of the sandbox.
     
    mizt, Apr 23, 2005 IP
  8. aboyd

    aboyd Well-Known Member

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    #28
    With a normal Google search for "publisher database" my site doesn't even rank. But without the sandbox, my site is #1.

    I would kinda like to escape the sandbox. Now.
     
    aboyd, Apr 25, 2005 IP
  9. jlawrence

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    #29
    I'm not sure exactly what this tool shows. Normal search #10 sandbox search #1.
    I can't believe the site is sandboxed - not with a top 10 result.
     
    jlawrence, Apr 26, 2005 IP
  10. aboyd

    aboyd Well-Known Member

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    #30
    How old is your site?
     
    aboyd, Apr 26, 2005 IP
  11. rubenmajor

    rubenmajor Well-Known Member

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    #31
    So really the real question is: What is the average time spent in the sandbox prior to leaving and when do sites usually get to leave? At a BL update, PR update? When? :confused:
     
    rubenmajor, Apr 27, 2005 IP
  12. aboyd

    aboyd Well-Known Member

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    #32
    I've heard it could be up to 6 months. But man, I hope not. My site is only 1 month old. If I have to wait another 5 months, ugh.
     
    aboyd, Apr 27, 2005 IP
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    #33
    Some say the sandbox is from 6 months to 18 months for a new site. Also some say if you get to many links to fast you can sandbox those links.

    As for leaving they ususally leave slowly.
     
    bobmutch, Apr 27, 2005 IP
  14. rubenmajor

    rubenmajor Well-Known Member

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    #34
    I am pretty sure my sites are sandboxed for now with google. I am #1 for a term and in the top 10 for other keywords in MSN and Yahoo. Hopefully the wait won't be long!
     
    rubenmajor, Apr 28, 2005 IP
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    #35
    So are you saying that if you're out of the sandbox and later get a large amount of backlinks all at one time, the links and their weight will be sandboxed or will your site will be sandboxed again?
     
    flyguy, Apr 28, 2005 IP
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    #36
    Argh. Unless PR3 BL's don't count for anything, my new sites have been sandboxed too. I don't get it, I didn't build up hardcore links, I'd guess they should be about a PR3 by the IBL's I have, but... bleh. I just don't get it :)
     
    davedx, Apr 28, 2005 IP
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    #37
    aboyd: site is about 2 years old. But only started being seo'd and linked to recently. We did have a site wide (by accident) that gave us 2900 IBL's for a short period.
    But I can't see how we'd be #10 if we're sandboxed.
    I do have another site that jumps from #23 -> #1.
     
    jlawrence, Apr 28, 2005 IP
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    #38
    IMO it's about 6 months.Depends on G algo update frequency as well.
    This Sandbox filter is most ridiculous policy I ever met. This is so shallow mind IMO.
    They have to find better method to distinguish between dodgy and good sites.
     
    Estrange, Apr 28, 2005 IP
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    #39
    flyguy: No those links will go into the sandbox. The site will not.
     
    bobmutch, Apr 28, 2005 IP
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    #40
    Good to know. Thanks.
     
    flyguy, Apr 28, 2005 IP