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Singular or plural keywords - or both?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by yoes_san, Nov 12, 2010.

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    Suppose I do SEO for 'dog', will this mean I'll also ranks for 'dogs' - or I have to do SEO for 'dogs' separately?

    On the same vein, what about wording like 'Japan/Japanese', or 'agency/agencies' - are they treated as the same or separate keyword, SEO-wise?

    What I'm curious is, if I put up two separate pages about 'dog' and 'dogs' up on the site, will google see it as spam?

    Any opinions on this?
     
    yoes_san, Nov 12, 2010 IP
  2. Fishman33

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    I have noticed recently that within the Google Webmaster Tools for websites I work on, that Google is combining various spellings. For example: With the keyword "Parent", Google see's all of these variations as the same on our site: parent, parent's, parental, parented, parenting, parents.
     
    Fishman33, Nov 12, 2010 IP
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    ictaros Peon

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    Hi there

    I think you'll have to do it seperately. IF you seach each term, the SERPs are completely different.
     
    ictaros, Nov 12, 2010 IP
  4. seafrontsteve

    seafrontsteve Peon

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    Adwords guru Perry Marshall tells a story about how Glenn Livingston had analysed the difference between people searching for 'guinea pigs' and 'guinea pig'
    The answer was 2 weeks difference.
    People first search for guinea pigs to find out all about them.
    Then they search for 'guinea pig' two weeks later (on average) when they are ready to buy.
    So while search volume may be lower for singular - you may find more buyers searching.

    If you find this info helpful – clicking the star at the bottom left of my post here - will be appreciated. Thanks
     
    seafrontsteve, Nov 12, 2010 IP
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  5. adamjthompson

    adamjthompson Well-Known Member

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    #5
    If you optimize for "dog" you might rank for "dogs" also, but I find it is helpful to optimize for both.
     
    adamjthompson, Nov 12, 2010 IP
  6. yoes_san

    yoes_san Peon

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    I can do both keywords with no problem, but what I'm afraid is - if somehow google treat "dog" and "dogs" the same -> will they see these pages as spam?

    Or I'm too paranoid about that?
     
    yoes_san, Nov 12, 2010 IP
  7. mindvsmind

    mindvsmind Peon

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    No, they won't treat it as SPAM!! while doing onpage SEO Just use the word "Dogs" Instead of "Dog" .. and while building backlinks concentrate on both ..
     
    mindvsmind, Nov 12, 2010 IP
  8. smallbusinessguy

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    Both. E.g

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    smallbusinessguy, Nov 12, 2010 IP
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    For Google dog is different than Dogs. So Singular and Plural keywords are totally different from each other. You should work on both.
     
    garymorrison23, Nov 13, 2010 IP
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    gamermatt Greenhorn

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    I always check google trends for both the singular and plural version of the keyword(s) and choose accordingly, depending on the competition
     
    gamermatt, Nov 13, 2010 IP
  11. bigp

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    If your content is relevant for both versions of the word, then you should focus on both keywords; if you optimize for 'dog' google will not rank you for 'dogs'.
     
    bigp, Nov 13, 2010 IP
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    #12
    I think you should work well on the website quality rather than concentrating on singulars and plurals. If you have a non-complicated user-friendly website, then you can rank well no matter what you use. Also, as 'yoes_san' says in his earlier comment, Google considers all the possible options, so it really doesn't matter too much.
     
    BB-OM, Nov 15, 2010 IP
  13. Ankurkr

    Ankurkr Peon

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    Google spider are software not any human being, So that it can only decided wht it is programmed. therefore we have to optimized our site from both keyword for finding the better result.
     
    Ankurkr, Nov 15, 2010 IP
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    ranjitbhatta Peon

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    #14
    You can use singular keywords and yet Google will recognize the plural word of that singular word. So, you don't have to use both singular and plural both to make it search engine friendly. It makes your website sour. And, Google is smart enough to recognize the plural word of almost every thing including our examples: Japanese and agencies.
    Google won't recognize 'dog' and 'dogs' as spam but, its good to use according to your sentence need. Just don't use 'dogs' instead of 'dog' to make is SEO optimized for both words.
    So, don't concentrate on plural and singular just make the quality content as possible as you can and rest of all will be fine.
     
    ranjitbhatta, Nov 15, 2010 IP
  15. seawind

    seawind Active Member

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    i think both is better
     
    seawind, Nov 16, 2010 IP
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    it is totally different from other,you should work on both
     
    jsmith54312, Nov 16, 2010 IP
  17. lifeplayer

    lifeplayer Notable Member

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    #17
    It depends on the keyword
    some keyword singular is better but some keyword plural is better, use the one that we common use
    Or you can choose the one with higher search volume
     
    lifeplayer, Nov 16, 2010 IP
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    Yes, you will need to optimize for both keywords unfortunately...
     
    pmaro, Nov 16, 2010 IP
  19. yoes_san

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    Guess I'll start with one version of keyword then see if it covers both version, if not, I'll also do SEO for the other version then.

    Thanks for all input!
     
    yoes_san, Nov 16, 2010 IP