Wow, farasens, that is a very informative post... thank you for taking time to share something value with all of us..
Thanks! I love helping people and I bet Dp popularity is going to make my post readable for a bigger audience.
Thanks farsens, it indeed helped me too. I will carefully use your ideas in a kind of outsourcing/partnership I am soon going to have.
Outsourcing is the key to online success, I agree with OP on that. But disagree with the language he uses for the third world people (stupid or whatever). Stupid people are everywhere including your place bro. Anyways, I usually outsource to Filipinos on Odesk.com or Onlinejobs.ph. They are good workers and I am happy with the quality most of the times. Indians are good too with a slight more price than Filipinos and comparatively better quality usually. But again it depends on person to person and not country to country.
These kinds of advices just keep amazing me. Your post is loaded with misguided information what just can’t sit still harming peoples minds and I can prove it to you. Let me just quote few sentences you wrote earlier. Thinking differently can’t be considered as stupid. Word you are probably searching for is different. Stupidity is something what can be found everywhere and it doesn’t require lag of money to archive that. You can’t just believe how furious this comment of yours makes me, but I’ll try to stay calm. This first part of your sentence “because some people from 3rd world countriesâ€. So you think people there are less valuable then you? Because you have more money? Or because your life is more important then theirs? I don’t think I’d ever like to see my own business to get so close to racism as yours now do. These are real people you are talking about. And just for your information “want to work less and gain more money†is a description for outsourcing. In other words, that phrase means you, not your workers. First of all, that sentence doesn’t make a whole lot of sense so I need to guess. Are you saying that so called cheap people aren’t taking their jobs seriously because they are cheap? You got to be kidding me! But as you said at the start of your sentence; let’s think. First I will show you the miracle of online research. http://www.nwpc.dole.gov.ph/pages/region_4a/cmwr_table.html . That’s an official website from Philippines. It shows the minimum wage range near Manila. It’s in local currency PHP. As you can see, the minimum wage there is something around 300 PHP per day. That’s about 6.5 USD. If you get someone hired with 2 USD per hour and that individual would work for you 40 hours per week, it would cost you about 320 USD per month when the lowest pay rate would cost you about 130 USD per month. Another website, which accuracy I can’t guarantee, is showing some numbers about average wage http://www.worldsalaries.org/philippines.shtml. These numbers indicate that average waged University professor gets about 300 USD per month. It’s probably safe to assume that 200 USD is a pretty damn good salary. Now, do you suggest that if you are paying good money for worker from that country and they wouldn’t take that job seriously? 200 USD for exchange of 160 working hours for you is not an expensive deal. It’s far from that. Of course there are people who might need more money to be satisfied…but that’s hardly an issue to add 100 USD, right? Other thing what I fail to understand is the idea of “no training your staffâ€. If you don’t do that, you will just burn your money. Of course you need to train everyone to their jobs. They need to know what you want them to do. It should be obvious. And it’s hardly considered as wasting time. I’d call it an investment to the future. I highly doubt that. First email is a contact email. It doesn’t tell you anything. You can screen out most of the scammers alright, but more detailed conversation is needed (note: conversation, not interrogation), before real value can be determined. If you don’t do that you are guessing. No you don’t. Common sense and good interview will do just fine. You don’t have to know a thing about human psychology to realize can you work with that person or not. So, you want to hire a cheap 3rd world country people, who you think are stupid, meaningless and not worth your trust? No wonder you get cheated. If you don’t give people any reason to like, trust or respect you, why would they? Of course people will cheat you when ever they have a change if you tread them like garbage! I partly agree. I too have heard that women age 28+ are preferable to hire, but with kids. I don’t like these kind of “guidelinesâ€, but yes, there is some truth behind the idea that women with families who are living at home, taking care of the house are easier to keep in long term contract; it has been considered that their life is at stable state. While this might be true, I’d still consider any kind of applicants. Students aren’t irresponsible. Maybe little sloppy some times, but they have their places. I do recommend you keep an eye on how they perform and don’t expect too much, but there is definably an advantage to hire a student for some tasks. Even considering hiring someone who is under 18 is pretty risky stuff. In many countries 15+ is easily considered as child. Do you really want to go that road? If you have time, hiring someone with out any history, is not actually a too bad idea. There are plenty of new comers every day searching jobs. Experience on one hiring platform can’t cloud your judgment that much. You might get a pretty good deal out of it. What!?! You just said you self, don’t hire people without any jobs and now you are saying they can’t have any experience? How’s that possible? And that’s by the way really depends what kind of worker you are looking for. If I want to get one complex PHP application programmed, I need the best and someone who gets the job done without any hassle. I don’t care what business you are in, but this is not an advice. It’s a statement what will get you into serious troubles in long run or at least will cost you awful lot of time. I have heard this kind of way of thinking before few years ago. I still fail to understand how this approach could be beneficial to any business? Over ten years ago I was working for one small business owner. The business was to entertain people in bars with help of karaoke. Man that was hard work. We had 5 to 10 workers doing the same thing, we were on the same boat and our boss took good care for us. I was working as hard as I could to please my boss and to get the job done. I was constantly under terrible stress, but we were a team; that was out business what just happened to be owned by my boss. Sure, there were some bad apples working time to time, but they were kicked out and if they had made some damage to the company, we other workers cleaned up the mess. My workers are an asset to my business. I’d really hate to loose them and yes, I do trust them. I don’t need to trust them the key elements of my business (like my credit card information). Goal is that they will know how to do their job well and, if necessary, teach that to someone else. I constantly communicate with my workers. Sure, there is some emotional distance. I’m not their friend, but I do respect what they do and help them any way I can. If one of my workers called sick, would it be a reason for me to kick him/her out? Sure, that sickness doesn’t help my business, but if the alternative is to get that worker replaced. No way! And vocation? Why wouldn’t it be possible? Of course I have to be notified in advance, but I fail to understand why it would become an issue. If the trade is from start to finish, everything can be sorted out. Your approach to this whole outsourcing matter is very dangerous. I assume, you are now giving advice to US based businesses. When I look at your text, I’m not too surprised that places like BestJobs.ph are basically banning US based employers from their system. Do you think these people are stupid? If you try to abuse them, they will react. You don’t need to trust anyone more then you are comfortable with, but use common sense; these are not animals you are talking about, they are humans.
if you need quality work so you have to invest proper money..but yes your cost is very very low then your country.
Offshore Outsourcing your non-core projects would be very helpful in terms of time. It's very cost-effective and can mainly increase your business' productivity. Make sure to appropriately screen your offshore workers and outsourcing solution providers before jumping into conclusions.
Outsourcing can be a little hit and miss so it is important that you thoroughly check any work that is done for you. I have lost count of the amount of times I have asked someone to do something and for them to do something totally different.