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I Hate PR

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by ScottDaMan, Apr 13, 2005.

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  1. #1
    You know, PR is a major pain in my a**. I have a few new sites that are getting good traffic. All rank well already but I want to do some good link exchanging with more authority sites.

    The problem stems from these people demanding a PR rank of 3+ and the ever-so-rare PR update taking absolutely forever.

    Before PR, all you needed was a good standing in the link popularity checkers like http://www.widexl.com/remote/link-popularity/index.html and people reciprocated.

    Now its PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR

    BTW, I still like that widexl popularity checker more than marketleap's newer version.

    RANT OVER
     
    ScottDaMan, Apr 13, 2005 IP
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  2. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    #2
    Yeah, I have a site I want to submit to a very good directory. Problem is that I need to give them a link back and I have PR0.

    We'll just have to wait.
     
    fryman, Apr 13, 2005 IP
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    unknownseo Peon

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    #3
    Agreed. PR doesn't mean wht it used too and novice web "masters" hang too much on it. After all, gg isn't even putting up the real thing...at least not in a timely manner.
     
    unknownseo, Apr 13, 2005 IP
  4. dejaone

    dejaone Well-Known Member

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    #4
    It's time for yahoo to push a WebRank and MSN to push for a XBoxRank :)
     
    dejaone, Apr 13, 2005 IP
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    kalius Peon

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    #5
    Maybe a Public PR update will never come....
     
    kalius, Apr 13, 2005 IP
  6. ScottDaMan

    ScottDaMan Peon

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    Well, if they don't want to do a public PR update ever again, they need to show EVERY SITE a grey bar. Ahh imagine the traffic on all these SEO forums.. poor admins. <g>

    Waiting sucks for those that have a lot to do. I hate being at the whelm of a damn engine.
     
    ScottDaMan, Apr 14, 2005 IP
  7. oalhajjar

    oalhajjar Guest

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    I'm beginning to care less about PR and more about links and traffic. I thought about this last night and came to the conclusion that the only benefit of PR seems to be that you can sell links based on it.

    But I'd much rather have traffic, visitors, and clicks on my adsense rather than be able to sell links.

    And it seems like PR is just a waiting game.
     
    oalhajjar, Apr 14, 2005 IP
  8. hurricane_sh

    hurricane_sh Well-Known Member

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    #8
    I think PR is a good thing, but I dislike how Google updates it. If Google still doesn't update it tomorrow, I will try to ignore it.
     
    hurricane_sh, Apr 14, 2005 IP
  9. Solicitors Mortgages

    Solicitors Mortgages Well-Known Member

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    #9
    I hate PR too, but i understand the necessity for it.

    Best thing is to have a good site or original content, then sites will link to you
    regardless of PR.
     
    Solicitors Mortgages, Apr 14, 2005 IP
  10. seo_expert

    seo_expert Well-Known Member

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    #10
    it is a "necessity evil" if i must say.

    PR is for the world to see but for site owners what matters is the traffic and the sales and the business etc that comes their way..
     
    seo_expert, Apr 15, 2005 IP
  11. Agent47

    Agent47 Well-Known Member

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    #11
    Can you please share that directory URL? :)
     
    Agent47, Apr 16, 2005 IP
  12. Crusader

    Crusader Peon

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    #12
    I'm getting fed up with PR as well. I'm spending more time trying to get backlinks, and adding to directories, than I'm spending on actually working on my site.

    At least some of the directories are giving me some traffic back.
     
    Crusader, Apr 16, 2005 IP
  13. seo_expert

    seo_expert Well-Known Member

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    #13
    I guess you are right crusader.

    You must first get your site worth while and people would automatically aks for links for your site.

    I've always emphasized on creating a content rich site which people would love to offer to their visitors and you have most of battle won for PR.

    You site will market itself and you would be better off with it.
     
    seo_expert, Apr 17, 2005 IP
  14. Crusader

    Crusader Peon

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    #14
    Well, the site is pretty much as I want it, and I've got good content as far as the quality and quantity of the wallpapers go.

    The thing is, I would rather be out and about looking for new additions, brokering usage rights with some artists, and creating some wallpapers myself, than running around trying to get links from other sites.

    I always believed in "Built a great site, and they'll come", but now...
     
    Crusader, Apr 17, 2005 IP
  15. seo_expert

    seo_expert Well-Known Member

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    #15
    Nice site..it is really neat.

    love the layout....
     
    seo_expert, Apr 17, 2005 IP
  16. Crusader

    Crusader Peon

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    Thank you! I try my best.
     
    Crusader, Apr 17, 2005 IP
  17. mcfox

    mcfox Wind Maker

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    #17
    Agreed. I recently wrote about the way PR has been encapsulated in mythology and is seen by many webmasters as the be-all and end-all of linking. Hardly surprising with all of the PR link selling that is going on just now.

    What is really important about PR is that it is a central component to Google's patents. Which is why PR manipulation using PR link brokers is about to get ugly, imho anyway.

    Personally, I don't give a stuff about PR. I seek links. Unfortunately, some uninformed webmasters, and there are many, view PR0 as not worth linking to. They don't allow for the next PR update when many PR0 sites will hit PR3 and PR4 overnight and therefore miss the opportunity to trade links with decent, but new, websites.
     
    mcfox, Apr 17, 2005 IP
  18. seo_expert

    seo_expert Well-Known Member

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    #18
    This exactly is the problem I face lotta times when I do link building campaigns for my clients with PR0 website.

    And I always give the same reason that in th next PR update our site will have PR3 or higher PR.

    But this update stuff is not understood by all.
     
    seo_expert, Apr 17, 2005 IP
  19. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #19
    Don't hate it, just ignore it, is very easy once you get used to it. I got rid of the foolbar 2 months ago and everything is finally good.
     
    Blogmaster, Apr 17, 2005 IP
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    i have never been able to get a good PR ranking... soo frustrating
     
    bnaze13, Apr 19, 2005 IP
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