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Discussion in 'Sites' started by Flamerid, May 22, 2010.

  1. #1
    What this site has:

    - Custom professional layout. Cost me $240.
    - Excellant SEO. Automatic sitemap, seo'd pages, etc.
    - 100% custom systems scripted by me. I'll snap a screenshot of the admin cp.
    - All unique content, and lots of it.
    - Highest ranking 'one piece' fan site. I can't beat the official wiki-like sites though.
    - One Piece isn't ending anytime soon unlike naruto and bleach, so it's probably the best anime series to invest into.
    - Traffic is progressively increasing.
    - Domain is 4 years old.
    - Over 100,000 members.
    - Estbalished forum.


    What this site doesn't have:

    - Good monetizing. I suck at monetizing. Right now I plop a few ads on there and make $100/month. I'm sure there's many webmasters who know what they're doing here better than I do.
    - Lots of backlinks. I haven't really worked on it, sorry! All my backlinks are organic though. Also, the site is listed twice in DMOZ, so that's the hard part right? The site still beats all of its competition.

    Copyright notes:
    The site has nothing to do with the english dubs. Funimation has contacted us before telling us not to host dubs. We've been online for 4 years, we're on an American server, and we're within Google adsense policies. No worries here.

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    This cms that powers the site is completely scripted by me. It's not being redistributed. I'm not giving rights to redistribute it, but the owner may do with it as s/he wishes pertaining to the site.


    I'm asking for 9,500 obo. I doubt I'll go any lower though. I originally thought of selling it for 10,000, but I'm trying to make a quick sale.

    Method of payment will be Paypal through verified users.

    Feel free to ask me anything.
     
    Flamerid, May 22, 2010 IP
  2. nemis1s9

    nemis1s9 Active Member

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    #2
    pros keyword "one piece" has 45,000,000 searches globally and he ranks in top 5....

    cons @your current adsense positions are just wrong. @your average cost per click is probably really shit, like 0.05 per click.
     
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  3. Flamerid

    Flamerid Active Member

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    #3
    I did, but I reconsidered lowering the price a final time. I don't know how to delete my old thread. Can a mod please delete my old listing? Also, the forums were never too active even back when the site used to get 10,000 uniques a day (a few years ago when the site used to beat wikipedia). What people use most is the site. Our forums are still one of the most active forums for the niche. The site's been online for 4 years. The active user count bounces up and down.

    Also, please know that I'm not placing any analytics on the forums at the moment. So our total traffic that's being displayed at the moment doesn't include the forums. :)

    As for the ads, I know my placement is terrible. Like I mentioned, the site isn't monetized very well. Also, the site isn't really meant to be an adsense-type site. It would do better selling products, PPV ads, double click ads, etc. However, I don't really know or have the time to mess with these. I kind of need the money.
     
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    adamsinfo Greenhorn

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    #4
    $1k bid here.
     
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  5. Flamerid

    Flamerid Active Member

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    #5
    If I made what the site's capable of making, I would never even consider selling it. I'm selling the traffic/site because I don't know how to monetize it. It's up to the buyer to monetize the site. If you don't believe this site can't make that much, then look around at other similar anime sites. They make money just fine. If you can't monetize a site this popular with this much traffic and work already fleshed out, then you shouldn't be looking for sites to buy.

    Jesus, if Flippa wasn't retarded I would've had it sold there a long time ago.
     
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  6. tusen

    tusen Active Member

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    #6
    I don't understand why you are considering selling the site for $9,500. This site is averaging at 3500 unique visitors a day making you $100 p/m ($3/d). Do you realize that even if someone implement better motenization and make 2-3 times as much as it is now, it will still be only making $200 or maybe $300 p/m which is still only $2.4k-3.6k a year? Why would anyone consider buying it for $9.5k + invest time on the site which may take them 3-4 years to recover their investment? If you ever consider selling for 2-3 grand then hit me up, but 9.5k for something that doesn't even make a fraction of the price tag you are looking will never sell... especially here in DP.

    Best Regards,
    Tony.
     
    tusen, May 30, 2010 IP
  7. Flamerid

    Flamerid Active Member

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    #7
    Why? Some people who are lucky enough to have a valueclickmedia account can make 500+/month from this site. Or if you have the right connections or know the right people, they'll pay to have their ads on your site just for your traffic. Basing the worth of a site based on it's current income isn't an accurate way of judging the potential of a site. Why don't I do any of this? I already mentioned that I don't have this site monetized.
     
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  8. tusen

    tusen Active Member

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    #8
    So you think that ValueClickMedia is going to give you 10x more ECPM than Google Adsense (which is about $.25 ECPM from my basic math)? Have you use ValueClickMedia? What proof do you have that you will yield a higher ECPM let alone 10x more ECPM? The site's current state does not have the leveraging power to yield a higher ECPM because 3.5k uniqs p/d is low for an Anime based website. I do understand that revenue is not the best indication of the site's value, but with traffic stats (aprox. 3.5k uniqs p/d) and of course the category of the site (anime sites DO NOT yield a high ECPM since the majority of the viewers are in their teens and hard to monetize since anime is based predominately in Japan), I can assure you that the site is not worth the amount you are looking for. You as a seller have to factor in the cost for the buyer in purchasing the site for example webhosting bills, time spent to keep the site updated with content, and also of course time spent to better monetize the site (like find advertisers and such). This is why the industry standard of selling sites is 12 months revenue which would come to be $1200 for your site. But, what I can offer is a generous offer of 20 months revenue which is $2000. Think about it, it will take you about 20 months for the site to make that amount where you can invest that money and time on an industry/site that you can better monetize in.
     
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  9. Flamerid

    Flamerid Active Member

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    #9
    Buddy, I know my topic better than you think. I've spoken with many successful anime webmasters about their sites (narutocentral.com, naruto-kun.com, etc.) This site used to rank 1st for One Piece before it crashed, and it got about 10,000 uniques a day (I have proof on analytics). Back then I had the Google Ads (probably the least preferred method of making money in my niche) optimized, I got about $20 a day from the site. My site ranks really high with its low PR. The wiki page on top is only PR 4. The site's work is already done, I don't have to write any content (our community does it), and I'm merely a push away from that spot. However, I'd rather sell the site. I won't go much lower than 8,000 though, maybe 7,000 but I would have to heavily consider it. The site's not as bad as everyone says it is. Besides, the cost of the professional software the site uses and the scripts alone are worth about 1k.
     
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  10. tusen

    tusen Active Member

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    #10
    Then I suggest you to push the site's traffic to the old days where you were making $20 a day and then try and sell it for 8-10k. However, if you are ever ready to sell the site for $2.5k then hit me up in a PM.
     
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  11. Flamerid

    Flamerid Active Member

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    #11
    Is anyone still not interested in this? The site moved up 3 spots in google from 11 to 8 globally and is now getting nearly 4,000 uniques a day. The top spot yields an alexa rank of 9k. Also, I've built several high PR links back to the site about 45 days ago. I have proof. It's definitely going up a couple PR once the update comes. I've only had its current page since November 09. That's a shit ton of progress in such a short time for a highly competing keyword. After the update I may not want to sell it, so make your offer. I kind of need the money now.

    Two weeks ago the site had 189,000 back links and today it has 2,000 more naturally.
    http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9296/clipboard01ga.jpg

    Oh btw, I forgot one minor detail.. site sometimes gets donations.
    http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2612/clipboard02gr.jpg

    I'll reduce the BIN to 5,000.
     
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  12. boringz

    boringz Member

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    #12
    yeah. thats the way. keep reducing it. Because FYI, no one buys overvalued sites. Keep trying Flamer. :) You want to cheat kiddy webmasters I'll advise you not to try Digital Point.
     
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  13. Flamerid

    Flamerid Active Member

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    #13

    You just join this site to make a comment like that? I don't get why I'm bothering explaining myself to an idiot, but I'm bored so let's have fun. :D This anime site here http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1878095 with a much smaller series/alexa already has a bid for what I'm selling this site as now just because it has a higher PR/monetizing, so according the average 'kiddy webmasters' that browse this forum that you are insulting they ARE interested in sites just like this! How about that. This site's actually worth much more than 5k. In fact, I would have sold it already for much more if I didn't have issues with flippa. I posted a topic on it a few weeks ago, and I'm not the only one that feels they screwed up. So, what do you want me to do? If I were to sell the site anywhere, I have to sell it here. Chew on it.
     
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  14. boringz

    boringz Member

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    #14
    LOL. Now i get where your price comes from. Mate, if your site is really worth your value, wouldn't everyone go nuts on this thread? Do you even need to ask: "Is anyone still not interested in this?" ROFL

    Had to leak a tip to you: DP users are lazy. You really want to sell it? Work on your monetization issue. Srsly, just do something about it. Stop joining the whole bunch of sellers that want to sell something that will not make money. I mean.. what's the point of buying one then? Art collection? Just wake up, stop being egoistic and face the truth. No one wants to buy some shit that doesn't make money for them here.

    No harm meant. Good luck mate. Cheers on your sale. All the best. ;)
     
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  15. Flamerid

    Flamerid Active Member

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    #15
    I thought being a successful webmaster was all about taking advantage of opportunity. I can't monetize this site, but somebody like that yugioh site with the same niche/CPC CAN with much less traffic. If every site was successfully oozing full-time job paychecks, and everything was set up to be hard wired into your account nobody would ever sell/buy sites because they would all be working. DP members ARE lazy, and that frame of thinking needs to die. What one person can do, another can take further and sometimes we sell because we just want the quick cash. That's why this site is being sold here. Hell, I sold a gaming site that made $8/day for 14k on flippa, and another than made $1/day for 5k. Why do you think that is? I have no idea why this is such a ridiculous concept to grasp for you DP members.


    EDIT: I owe a HUGE apology to the DP staff running this place. I'm really sorry this topic ended up this way, but I really didn't think expect this. If I knew any better, I wouldn't have bothered selling the site, or I would've waited until the site was monetized/updated before making a higher BIN. I just figured people were more reasonable. If this site doesn't get some 'good' replies within the next couple days you can delete this thread and I won't bother reposting. I'll email a staff to delete this within two days.
     
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  16. dude91

    dude91 Well-Known Member

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    #16
    how much are u looking for ?
     
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  17. Flamerid

    Flamerid Active Member

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    #17
    5,000 bin.
     
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    msk19994 Well-Known Member

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    #18
    in the whole thread i cant see the link to the site so what is the site you are trying to sell mate ??
    are u trying to sell the one piece manga 1 which is in your signature
     
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  19. Castro Medici

    Castro Medici Banned

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    #19
    so what happens when the show ends and looses popularity?
     
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  20. Flamerid

    Flamerid Active Member

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    #20
    Yeah it's the site in my signature. Also, I tried some new ads a few days ago and it's earning about $10/day with cpalead (earned $18 first day I put it up) along with $5 from adsense. I'm still experimenting, but I'm no longer selling this for just 5k. Sorry. Everyone can still make offers though if you want.

    @castro
    The show's not ending for a very long time. I'd give it 5 more years. Even if it ends, the search term still brings in traffic. In ended series like FMA and death note get hundreds of thousands of searches a month.
     
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