Excuse me, false claims, you do not know anything about my niche and my expertise in my niche. Unlike other internet marketers I am not doing the seduction niche because its a untapped market I actually know about the sociology and psychology behind what I am saying and its backed up by in the field observational analysis. You have no evidence that I am "making false claims" to my visitors as you have no clue about the training I have had in the seduction field. You can criticise me for being a bad internet marketer but how you criticise my knowledge in seduction without meeting me. Basically I have nullified your nonsense, I would appreciate it if you did not post in my thread anymore. If anyone other than dlm has anything to add to improve my conversion rate feel free to reply.
Hey man, first of all... no one is going to buy this ebook. it's about seducing women? why not get the free information or holler at girls on facebook???? write a social media seduction book man!! second of all... you have this posted on the buy it now. Fri, 05/07/2010 - 21:07 — BDDazza, no one is going to buy something from a website from this month. you also need SSL and all that security crap.
it's also $10. this needs to be a free ebook, used for viral marketing on some sort of site that sells scented sexy oils.
You asked for advice - I gave you advice. It's a crappy website. The sales pitch is weak. The cover art is amateurish. And just so you know, the dating niche is one of the most competitive niches in the world, so calling it "untapped" shows that you know nothing about your market. Next time don't ask for advice if you are going to be all defensive. Enjoy your non-converting website.
this is another reason why you can't make any sales. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=seducing+women&x=0&y=0 do research next time. it's only a google search.
My ebook is listed in Amazon Digital Text too, if you bothered to read my thread before posting you would have known that. Secondly what makes you think I haven't researched? I've done my own research but I have been unable to improve the conversion rate despite taking advice from so called "guru" sites.
Have you considered any dating site CPAs like match and/or some dating tips CPAS around too. Sure it won't give you a big payout but at least the conversions are much easier.
Here's some news, this isn't about "your niche" or "your expertise". In fact it isn't about YOU. It's about the fact that you CAN'T SELL YOUR BOOK and you asked for help. People have been willing to help you. dlm sent you to a related site, quite similar to yours, loaded with examples of what is being done right. This is compared to yours, where all those things are being done wrong. Instead of getting all pissy and defensive, you should try to put your ego aside and thoughtfully consider the advice and help that you are, in fact, getting in spite of the chip on your shoulder. When you make claims like "90% success rate" and don't back it up with relevant data, people rightfully assume you pulled that number out of your you-know-what. There are many reasons, just like this one, that account for not selling your book. You don't have to say things like 90% success rate if you can't back them up. Just use something else like "We can show YOU how to do it too". Or anything else you want to, just don't throw numbers around that you can't back up. People will assume your lying. It is NOT YOUR AUDIENCE'S JOB to assume you are an authority. It is YOUR JOB to give them enough proof that they accept what you say as fact. What the hell is "field observational analysis"? Sitting in a bar trying out pickup lines? You need to stop insulting people's intelligence, put your ego aside, get real and buckle down. Try to learn something so you can SELL YOUR BOOK.
I agree it isn’t about me and the people that helped me I thanked. You didn’t read any of my posts or understand it? I wasn’t pissy about the changes because I actually implemented some of the changes i.e. opening title change, pricing, removed images etc. - The bigger changes like the website that dlm posted with take time to implement as I do not have a team of staff to do it at a moments notice. I got defensive when dlm openly insulted my ebook, not my website she insulted my ebook! She said my ebook wasn’t even worth stealing. Her exact words were, and I quote "LOL, yeah, this is such a popular product I'm sure everyone is searching the internet for a leaked copy" So basically she is saying that as a seduction practitioner I suck and that the content within the ebook is junk. I do not mind if she bashes my website but my ebook. I asked for help converting my website not about the quality of data within the ebook she hasn’t even read! I agree, although back when ebook was selling well I never got a complaint, actually I always got emails saying that it changed their way of thinking, so really its a 100% success rate. But I agree it’s hard to prove that so I will be implementing your advice and will remove that statement until I can get more concrete evidence. I agree, although I’m confused how to make myself appear more in a authority position. I do not have a PHD in the subject so how do I gain that teacher/student authoritarian respect from my potential customers? I meant observational study is one method I used to compile data for my seduction course, i.e. watching male and female interaction at bars, clubs, parks. I informally interviewed a few of my male friends and put in a bit of animal survival biology mashed with my own life experience. You assume that I have ego when I have implemented most of what has been said so far, so carrying out instructions is ego, that is the first I've heard. I appreciate your help and I will definitely making some adaption to what you’ve recommended like trying to be more authoritarian and removing the statistics, in the same merit it seems like you only posted to defend a pretty face which is a weak move I’m actually embracing everything that has been recommended, read the thread back and you'll see.
No, what I meant is that if you've only sold a "few copies" than obviously you shouldn't be worried about your precious book being leaked. If you had sold 10,000 copies and lots of people knew about your book, then that would be something you should worry about. "seduction practitioner" LOL
Thanks that is some great advice and has sparked an idea, I might do a spin off book about using social media to seduce women. I guess the market is changing to moving, the new kids are using Face Book and ProfilePic to get girls so I might as well write about it The payment is done through a third party, PayPal handle the payments, which I think is in SSL. I will double check though. I like your style, that is gangster, using the ebook to sell another product. Something I will consider but I like that hustler mentality player. And I took your advice although some of it I am in the process of implementing. However just because I take your advice it doesn’t mean I am going to take your sarcasm and insinuations that I have “lied to customers†or that my “book†isn’t worth stealing. I welcome criticism to my website but not to my eBook itself, especially when you haven’t even read a sentence of the content within. That is a fair comment I look to improving the website, sales pitch and cover art, I can take that as constructive criticism. Although the criticism would be better if you could tell me what on the website was trash, what part of the sales pitch was weak, and what you’d expect to see on a less amateurish cover art. But fair enough, I embrace that. I am very aware that the dating market is competitive. With big celebrities like David DeAngelo and Neil Strauss in the mix the little guys will not even get a look in, and there is like 1000s of little websites like mine competing too. I’m aware of this. I never said it was untapped, I said "I am not doing the seduction niche because its a untapped market I actually know about the sociology and psychology behind what I am saying". I’m implying that a lot of marketers look for a untapped niche markets or a market which converts well, most internet marketers jump on the “I’m a guru on traffic and SEO†ebook bandwagon without having the fundamentals themselves about the topic at hand, however I do not care about which market converts better and will continue to promote the seduction niche because it’s the topic I genuinely know about whether its untapped or not. Again, with the insults. What is the premise of this through away sentence of â€Enjoy your non-converting websiteâ€. What has†Enjoy your non-converting website†got to do with anything. You think you have the right to say “Enjoy your non-converting website†flippancy just because I refused to take your insults earlier and blatant sarcasm and disrespect. I welcome and appreciate your help but please leave your insults, flippancy and sarcasm at the door.
If you spent as much time improving your website as you do complaining about my posts, you might actually be making some money.
Excuse me what makes you think that I give you a second thought. I spent the best part of 3 hours doing SEO work to create back links and figuring out a plan about these radical changes with little downtime as possible. Just because I’m not afraid to keep your swift tongue in check doesn’t mean I am not concentrating on my money. Again, I appreciate your help and embrace your criticisms (to the website itself) but leave your swift tongue and backchat at the door.
I disagree. There will always be a market on how to meet women, in addition to knowing how to get an ex. back. ALWAYS! I'm just now looking at your site. Is it safe to assume that you are still in the process of changing things around? Because it looks incomplete, and, well, like shit. Sorry. I know not everyone can be good at this. First of all, know that just because it seems like everybody and their brother is doing this does not mean that it still can't sell. It can. It takes me to the buy page after about a minute or so. Do you mean for this to happen? If so, that needs to change. The cover needs to go. It looks too much like a book for women. The grammar needs work. Example: Are sick and tired of always getting rejected? You left out the "you." Think about getting rid of the "who's online." It makes the site look unpopular, even though you are just starting out. The header looks God-awful. It looks too much like a sales page. Damn, son, you are already showing them the price? People do not like to be sold to. ... They want to be helped. Once you have helped them, THEN try to sell them. BUT, do it with a light touch. You say you know a lot about this? Then you should offer free advice, quick tips to show to your potential customers that you do indeed know. Although I have put this on the backburner for now, I do this for a living. I use to do classes, and I sell e-books and subscriptions for singles, and, I have to say, you are selling bullshit. Example: It should read: "Hot girls who are immature, a flake and a pain in the ass like bad boys. You don't need to waste your time with them!" Now that, cousin, IS a fact! Guys are tired of such girls. THERE is your selling point, right there! You are using words that have been read 10,000 times before in such sites. Example: (And that is bullshit also.) Be different. Don't use words like "hot," "seduce," "seduction," "hot girls".... If you look at my site, you will notice that it is the complete opposite of all those dumbass seduction sites. I use such words as "cute," "attractive," "funny," "smart," "down-to-earth," "the girl next door".... Sorry, but you have a long way to go. There are a lot of idiots out there who call themselves "gurus." Have you looked at their sites as example designs to get ideas? http://www.doubleyourdating.com/cms/attraction/?s=56438 It doesn't have to look that nice, of course, but....
Thanks Perry Rose I appreciate your feedback. I have a few questions though if you do not mind me asking. The website is far from complete, admittedly it is shit but with time, weeks/months hopefully it will be where it should be. Is it because of the colour scheme? I know pink is considered a females colour, but I thought that a bright colour would attract ones attention more, but on second thoughts you are right it looks like a females book. Would I be better off changing the colour scheme of the ebook to something more mescaline like blue or black – what colours would you suggest? Or would I be better off removing the cover all together? Ok, top priority, its gone! So I should remove the prices from the homepage and only show the prices at the checkout? Ok done! Ok. So I will not make it seem like there is a product behind it until they’ve read some advice that helps them, then hook them in with a product? That is a great idea. I am going to create a quick tips page answering some typical chump questions. The funny thing about that title its 100% true, hot girls are often the flakiest and often like bad boys, yet we still chase them! Do you mind if I borrow that title and test it for a week or two? Agreed Great suggestion. The problem with that website is that the guy behind it is a celebrity, he has lots of money and throw away cash for webpage designers. But yes its a gorgeous site though.
You don't need a lot of money (or any money) to make a decent looking website. Just do a little research and learn some CSS and you can make a professional website yourself in a few days.
Hmm. I know how it must sting to have others criticize your site, especially when you've invested a lot of time into creating a product and website and getting the whole thing up and running. I think you deserve a pat on the back for having done that much, because most people stop at the idea phase and never move forward. I do want to point out that however difficult it was to read what dlm and Carl were saying, they were both truthful in pointing out serious deficiencies in your site. Perry has offered you some very comprehensive advice, too. I think you should take the comments of all three to heart. I've just looked at your site for the first time, and it seems you've already implemented some changes and corrections based upon the comments you received. Still, I have to say (and bear in mind that I'm speaking as a single male - and therefore a potential purchaser - and not just as a web designer) that the site is still really a turn off. Frankly, most men would drop ten dollars in an instant if they thought it would guarantee them a 90% chance of success with the woman of their choosing. The problem is that there's absolutely nothing about your site that inspires any confidence in your ability to deliver on that promise. In the world of internet marketing, your website IS your business. You don't have to maintain a fancy office. You don't need a Beverly Hills address. You don't need a famous name or ivy-league diploma. But you DO need to establish credibility with your customers. How do you do that? With a professional-looking website - which fortunately can be achieved for little or no money - and with compelling, well-written ad copy - which again, need not be expensive. Without these two things you stand little chance of succeeding, even if in your personal life beautiful women are falling at your feet. Additionally, a few other things would tip the odds in your favor. Some heart-felt testimonials, for one thing. A detailed explanation of just what I could expect for my $10 might be another. (I realize that you list 10 topics on your page, but how big is the e-book? Ten pages? Three hundred?) I believe that some publishers have had success by offering a free chapter, or even a page of tips or a "cheat sheet", as an enticement to buy. Of course, you have to have a lot of confidence in your product to offer a piece of it for free. A particular note on your ad copy. Let's just lay it on the line: it's poorly written. Very. Poorly. Written. I don't mean to be insulting when I say that. I'm just being honest. Again, your website IS your business, so having not just good, but GREAT ad copy is of paramount importance. In fact, the quality of your ad copy is even more important than the quality of your product. Ironically, your product is a book - which presumably you have written yourself - and the lousy ad copy just compounds the problem. It calls your whole enterprise into question. How would you feel about a car mechanic who can't perform basic repairs on his own car? My guess is that you'd look elsewhere. Before you go saying that good website design is expensive and that you're not a professional writer, there are tons website templates out there that are available for free, and there are services like elance that will fix you up with a copywriter who can transform your ad copy into something like standard English for very little money. What you have now would not have earned a passing grade in my junior high-school English class. If you're not willing to do that, at least take a course and try to hone your basic writing skills. Also, obtain a copy of Strunk and White's "Elements of Style" (it's in the public domain, so you can find a copy online for free) and learn how to punctuate. A final note: I appreciate that you're watching your expenses (aren't we all?) but one of the wonderful things about the internet is the fact that with a little skill and ingenuity (and, one hopes, a bit of good taste), you can create a site for next to nothing that looks as good as the sites being produced by the "big boys." Before I invested in any web-authoring software, I downloaded a copy of NVU (it's free) to see what I could do with it, and - lo and behold - one could actually create a nice-looking site with it it. In fact, these days there are so many freebies available (free stock photography, graphics, website scripts, templates, and plenty of other goodies) that there's little excuse for having a lousy-looking website (and if you're selling yourself as an authority, as you are, there is NO excuse for looking amateurish). The quality of your writing is another matter - if you're unwilling or unable to improve your own writing then you should get someone else to rewrite you. The good news here is that if your own writing does improve then you can spin off one e-book after another - along with the sales pages to market them - with your only investment being your time. Anyway, I've prattled on long enough. I wish you the best of luck.
Filmwonk, that was a very informative and inspiring post, I appreciate it. dlm, on my very first post I already said that my website used to be HTML and CSS based, so common sense would suggest that I am proficient with CSS. The very fact that you didn’t even read my very first post shows that you are not qualified to give me advice, read my posts before making assumptions without any basis.
To make it simplier, may I suggest that you go over to Amazon and look at the best-selling book covers over there? The picture you have of the couple looking lovingly in each other's eyes and the flower makes it look less manly. That's not to say that it is a turn off for all guys. You really don't need a bells and whistles website. Here is one of my favorite designs another copywriter uses: http://www.getclientsreport.com/ I don't know where he got that, though. I'd love to know. Where is it written that you even need a header, anyway??? Show your price and the book at the end of the page. Introduce yourself. Then empathize how hard it is to break the ice with a woman, and then ask her out. Talk about it for a little bit. Then give them about a half a dozen free tips. Talk a little bit more to them after that, then introduce your book. You being yourself, being real, combined with giving them free tips will sell the book for you. That is, IF your tips are good. Be their friend who wants to help them. Not a salesman who is looking for another sale. If you are looking for a copywriter to do the page for you, send me an e-mail. For something simple like this, it shouldn't cost no more than $200. But first see if you can do it.