How to optimize Dynamic Website with 50K pages

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  1. shrung

    shrung Peon

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    #21
    Hi
    If you have a set up ecommerce dynamic website with control panel, it may not be so hard.

    I may help you out just PM me
     
    shrung, May 6, 2010 IP
  2. oahson

    oahson Active Member

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    #22
    Thanks mate, that sure was helpful... I hope OP should also benefit from this strategy if his sites are lacking this feature.
     
    oahson, May 6, 2010 IP
  3. asghar.paracha

    asghar.paracha Well-Known Member

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    #23
    You need to optimize each and every of ur web page. for this you can post to deep links directories, make a strategy, first get rank for ur targeted keywords in between that u can optimize ur internal links 1 by 1. but remember u need to have a strategy
     
    asghar.paracha, May 6, 2010 IP
  4. oahson

    oahson Active Member

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    #24
    Optimizing 50,000 pages is a bit tough thing to do. Can you please be more specific about how to start optimizing 50K pages?

    The best anyone can do is to have unique titles with keywords and relevant content in web pages with optimized images. Do share with us if you have any helpful information.

    Also, what SEO strategy would you suggest for such e-commerce sites like the OP is asking about?
     
    oahson, May 6, 2010 IP
  5. SEO Rockstar

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    #25
    For starters...make sure each page has a unique and RELEVANT Title, Meta Description and H1 tag if possible.
     
    SEO Rockstar, May 6, 2010 IP
  6. oahson

    oahson Active Member

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    #26
    If it's an e-commerce site, it would definitely have images. Try to optimize every image of your site with proper product and site keywords. Make sure you don't stuff keywords and also don't write very long ALT tag text.

    You can also write image Title (a tag for images) but ALT tag has more weight in Google's algo than Title tag.
     
    oahson, May 7, 2010 IP
  7. biztrendz

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    #27
    Thanks for all the replies. I would like to mention few things here:

    In my sites:
    1. Images are optimized with ALT tag
    2. URLs are SEO-Friendly
    3. All pages have unique titles with keywords

    Please don't bother repeating the same SEO tips.

    I do think that my sites lack in h1 & h2 tags and I will overcome this lacking soon. Still if there is any smooth SEO strategy for a dynamic and ecommerce website, than do share please.
     
    biztrendz, May 7, 2010 IP
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    cellgsm Greenhorn

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    #28
    Article marketing is a good idea, putting some content on the web pages you optimize for is also a plus.
     
    cellgsm, May 7, 2010 IP
  9. oahson

    oahson Active Member

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    #29
    Try to get quality and relevant links for your site and if you are able to get deep links, than that would be super great. It will also be good if you would get deep links for hot selling products of your site.
     
    oahson, May 10, 2010 IP
  10. biztrendz

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    #30
    Hi mates (again),

    I have received so many replies (lot of which are duplicates) but still my question stands there unsolved:

    I would really appreciate if anyone with "personal experience" of such sites (ecommerce/50k pages) would reply and help me out.

    If you think you can help me out, than please please do it asap...
     
    biztrendz, May 10, 2010 IP
  11. SmartFX

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    #31
    It is very difficult to optimize a dynamic website;
    the technique is not as same as static website.

    Because most of the search engine Spider can’t find the dynamic variables of dynamic site and get trapped. So you have to use some special techniques to optimize the site -

    You should use some rewriting tools or software to convert the dynamic URL to Static URL.

    You can use CGI/Perl scripts to pull information before the query string.

    You should use Apache server that convert URL into index compatible mode.
     
    SmartFX, May 11, 2010 IP
  12. amitpandey

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    #32
    My suggestion is to make your all URL SEO Friendly with the help of URL Rewriting.
    URL Rewriting is the process to make dynamic pages static, it needs some programming knowledge but once you convert dynamic to static your chances to get index in Google is higher.
    Now your site is static do optimize your site as you done with static.
     
    amitpandey, May 11, 2010 IP
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    #33
    Try to use Unique Title and heading on each page.
     
    hannahx, May 11, 2010 IP
  14. oahson

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    #34
    Just wanted to share this:

    On-Page SEO factors are essential for every SEO strategy as Google and other search engines gives more weight to on-page factors like, meta title, content, headings and etc. If you want to get results for a long term in major search engines, than it is vital to have your on-page SEO done without any over-optimization and black hat techniques.
     
    oahson, May 12, 2010 IP
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  16. andymoo

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    #36
    Does running a site with around five million pages make me qualified to answer and chip in here?

    Your biggest issue is likely to be crawl depth and that's down to your own internal linking structure. Top levels, middle levels and the deepest levels all need strong on site and off site links.

    On my site with millions of pages I've made sure that I've got access to as many pages as possible from with four clicks of the home page. I've covered A to Z plus core categories and minor sections breaking down the site bit by bit, cross referencing everything to build the internal relevancy, also linking to the deepest product pages which in turn are linking upwards.

    I'd suggest getting Xenu link sleuth and watch how it behaves when it crawls your site, it will help you find bottlenecks, bugs and duplicate title tags. I found it interesting and it alerted me to a few bugs I managed to sort right away.

    I've got what you could consider to be a LOT of duplicate content, I sell music and a song might have a few versions, then there's possibly lyric content that goes with that song which is as far from unique content as you can get.

    I try to find the different versions, pick one as the primary then treat the rest with a canonical tag. They still appear as duplicate titles and descriptions in WMT but I know I'm handling them the best I can.

    Keyword rich static looking URLs are best where possible, one of my best friends is htaccess and the voodoo it can create.

    Since launching this site on an existing domain back in June we've had around 5,000,000 pages spidered by Google where it actually identifies itself as Google. I suspect there are many, many more where they give no clue to their identity in the user agent.

    I've been impressed with how quickly Google has crawled, evaluated and ranked some brand new content but I'm finding it tough to get a thoroughly deep indexation.

    I reckon internal linking is paramount to give each page at least one link, that way the bots are discovering stuff for themselves rather than crawling urls from a sitemap which I'm sure has lesser authority than having a real page vote for it.

    I'm convinced a good architecture and some relevant domain authority are better allies in the search battle than an XML site map ever will be.

    That said site maps can be a good friend too, break your site down into sections, assign each section a site map then WMT will tell you how many URLs are in the map verses how many are in the index, this will help you identify the weak spots where you know you need to build better on site and off site links.

    Of course having off site links going to levels of all depths on your site will really help, page rank and crawl depth are related so if you can throw some nice offsite page rank to deep link with related links you'll be able to in theory encourage Google to take another look at that section of your site.

    Following the best practices on Yahoo's YSlow, Google's PageSpeed and a number of sites like webpagetest.org and websiteoptimization.com are good ideas, they'll save you bandwidth, save your visitors time and contribute to a lower bounce rate and higher conversion.

    I used to have around 50,000 ringtones and used to stress about it, now I've got nearly four millions songs, over a million lyrics and whilst I stress more in a sense I worry less as it's not about the numbers it's about how your pages are discovered!
     
    andymoo, Aug 9, 2010 IP
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    #37
    why h2 tags and not h1 tags?
     
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  18. andymoo

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    #38
    <sarcasm>
    Yeah use some software that will produce a drop down list of fifty thousand elements! Very wise, very user friendly,
    </sarcasm>

    That's of zero help to a site of the size being talked about, for a starter would you want to manaully add 50,000 sets of data before you can go live with it? Nope, it's far from a viable idea and in all honesty just stinks like a rather lame backlink to me.
     
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  19. Just4Sale

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    #39
    i don't know about doing SEO on them but i can help you in another way ... In yahoo web master tools . you can mention your dynamic pages and make them to get indexed Quickly. I did it and yahoo is faster in these things than google
     
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  20. andymoo

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    #40
    I just plucked a couple of brand new URLs out of my database to see who crawled it first and who sent the first visitor.

    Yahoo appears to be quicker to index however it is nowhere near as active as a crawler nor does it produce the same volume of visitors as Google:
     
    andymoo, Aug 10, 2010 IP