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SOS ! Fellow DP member put me in trouble

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by webspider2005, Jan 21, 2010.

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    I had a deal with a fellow DP member (with a good itrader). The deal was simple.

    - I would list his 8 auction items on ebay using my Ebay account.
    - For each of the item, I was supposed to get paid $10 each.
    - Inherent to the deal, I was required to respond to queries relative to items and attend to pre, post sales tasks .
    - The items were ADOBE softwares which he claimed to have been legally bought at a cheap rate.
    - The DP's Paypal was used to receive payment

    Here is what happened:

    - All the items (8) were sold like hotcakes amounting to more than $1,500
    - I got partially paid out of the deal via Paypal but later it was reversed
    - DP member claimed that his Paypal account has been locked thus he could not send the items to the winning buyers
    - Winning Ebay members were fuming mad at me because of undelivered orders
    - DP member refused to send items not unless Paypal will unlock his account
    - Ebay refunded all payments by the winning bidders
    - Ebay has been running after me to refund the payments it made to winning bidders
    - Winning ebay members left bad feedbacks to my account
    - DP member has been irresponsive of this case putting all the blame on Paypal
    - Ebay suspended my ebay account which I have been protecting
    - Paypal favored the reversal of the payment by DP member to me although I completed our deal.

    For the details, please follow this link http://scamcase.blogspot.com . I am not promoting this site. I just put it online so that Paypal and Ebay can refer to in terms of the details.

    The bottom line is I am being compelled to pay quite a huge amount which I never received.
     
    webspider2005, Jan 21, 2010 IP
  2. fathom

    fathom Well-Known Member

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    #2
    If it's too good to be true it "ALWAYS" is.

    Hard lessons learned are usually the best lessons.

    What possible "reputable" reason can someone give to desire selling on eBay at hotcake prices where they wish to remain anonymous to the buyers?

    While the crook should be shutdown... you have equal blame.

    If you're advertising as the seller of a product you really need to have the products in hand to verify there is really a sellable product.
     
    fathom, Jan 21, 2010 IP
  3. hydseo

    hydseo Peon

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    sorry to hear " webspider2005 " that you are cheated ,why can't you post the username of that fellow DP member
    so that we can see him

    Good luck :)
     
    hydseo, Jan 21, 2010 IP
  4. webspider2005

    webspider2005 Well-Known Member

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    You can check our deal here http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1593694 .

    I took his word because he has relatively a good itrader http://forums.digitalpoint.com/itrader.php?u=58521 .
     
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    webspider2005, Jan 21, 2010 IP
  5. extraspecial

    extraspecial Member

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    Well I believe there is no limitation on opening a new ebay account, the guy could open a new account... plus he is talking about Adobe Software for cheap, you must be blind that this is not a scam :) Good luck with eBay!
     
    extraspecial, Jan 21, 2010 IP
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    averyz Well-Known Member

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    It's called selling pirated software, it is kind of sketchy you might get some kind of federal agency come talk to you some day.

    Most people just buy a version for $20. and burn copies for .25 cents and sell them until they get shut down.
     
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  7. Snowing

    Snowing Peon

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    That is a good word to follow by
     
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  8. ramdom

    ramdom Member

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    why did the buyers send the money to mark when you should have received the money and afterwords when mark sent the item (buyers happy) you should then pay your partner the discussed amount. also paypal wont release payment until they see positive fb on your ebay account.
     
    ramdom, Jan 22, 2010 IP
  9. webspider2005

    webspider2005 Well-Known Member

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    It was part of our deal to use his Paypal account to receive payment. This arrangement will also spare me from paying Paypal charges because these are deducted directly from Marc's Paypal account.

    I wonder if DP will penalize a member with a case like this.
     
    webspider2005, Jan 22, 2010 IP
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    Why would DP care or get involved?

    It is odd how you are still describing this like some business deal and not the blatant scam is appears to be.
     
    browntwn, Jan 23, 2010 IP
  11. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    This is a private transaction between two individuals. It isn't something that we will look into. Itraders is only one of the many factors you need to check before dealing with anyone. Hope this be a good lesson for you. When something is too good to be true, it aint.
     
    wisdomtool, Jan 23, 2010 IP
  12. fathom

    fathom Well-Known Member

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    Honestly, if you think about this... you are a self-proclaiming scammer... You conspired in perpetrating a fraud due to the lack of your own due diligence.. Had you done your homework, checks and balances there wouldn't be any issues you would have uncovered a "seedy merchant" and that's the likely real reason they couldn't use their own eBay account.

    In fact -it's worse than you think - you conspired and tried to enlist eBay & PayPal to commit fraud... and with stolen products from Adobe... and PayPal & eBay "protected themselves" from claims that could come from Adobe.

    3 multimillion (if not billion) dollar companies.

    I'm sure the member in question is not without fault but you really need to concern yourself with yourself.

    The problem now is that "your word" (which is all DP has) can't be so easily trusted, just like eBay & Paypal can't trust you.

    It could be alot worse... for you though.
     
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  13. webspider2005

    webspider2005 Well-Known Member

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    While it is true that it was a private transaction between the two us, the transaction emanated from this forum.

    Now tell me, does DP just close its eyes on this case and charge everything to experience?
     
    webspider2005, Jan 23, 2010 IP
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    gr8liverpoolfan Notable Member

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    To answer you in a single word- Yes.
     
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    webspider2005 Well-Known Member

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    You are entitled to your opinion. But your statements are all sweeping statements. It has yet to be established that the products sold were illegally obtained or whatsoever.
     
    webspider2005, Jan 23, 2010 IP
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    BeauRepairsWebDesign Active Member

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    It's also best to check all the thread's they have started as well, As some times it can come up with some other information,

    as i have just checked this member out and http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1577502

    So he may of also done it to this member?.

    It really doesen't matter what itrade a person has, People can change at any moment, People can become desperate, etc

    And the internet being how easy it is, People can get money FAST the WRONG way,

    Just be very careful,
     
    BeauRepairsWebDesign, Jan 23, 2010 IP
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    webspider2005 Well-Known Member

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    That is sad to note if there is no measure to be instituted. I had been expecting at least a WARNING note to be posted.
     
    webspider2005, Jan 23, 2010 IP
  18. BeauRepairsWebDesign

    BeauRepairsWebDesign Active Member

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    But think about just how many BAD deals happen at Digital Point everyweek or even everyday,

    Dp staff are busy enough, Keeping all the forums organised,

    its just another day on the internet! ;)

    Don't worry a similar thing has happend to me, So i no what it feels like

    Just keep all your documents, Incase paypal or ebay request them, Though i don't think it will help you alot?
     
    BeauRepairsWebDesign, Jan 23, 2010 IP
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    webspider2005 Well-Known Member

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    Strange...

    DP can issue infractions and suspension orders to members with post violations. But it does not seem to have any concrete action on potential scam cases on board.

    Now I can only hypothesize that scam cases will continue to proliferate because we are not pro active in doing our part. I might have failed in doing my share but how about DP, you and the rest?
     
    webspider2005, Jan 23, 2010 IP
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    fathom Well-Known Member

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    OPINION? Here is a fact! My sweeping statements didn't get you in trouble it was your sweeping business practices that cause that - there likely was never any software.
     
    fathom, Jan 23, 2010 IP
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