SEO question

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by Melisa, Dec 5, 2009.

  1. #1
    I want to know if a site is created on Wordpress and having flash over there only on home page would it be difficult to do SEO?
     
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  2. Roger_Silvester

    Roger_Silvester Peon

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    Earlier was so. But at present not because Google has advance tools that read script written behind the flash, so now there is no problem in SEO.
     
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  3. meenka

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    Early google can't read flash file....but now u can optimized ur site or blog through flash
     
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  4. sousen

    sousen Active Member

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    Yes as said above it's was problem with previous Google Algo but these Google has change soem conditions and with the new spider it's no problem to read flash so there is no problem with SEO
     
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  5. dailyearner

    dailyearner Banned

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    #5
    very easy to do seo work
    since wp have some very good plugins that you can use
     
    dailyearner, Dec 6, 2009 IP
  6. webcosmo

    webcosmo Notable Member

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    That depends on whats in flash.

    Although Google says they crawl flash now, I hardly have seen sites rank well. However if you have lots of text as part of the content you should be fine.
     
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  7. seowebsitetraffic

    seowebsitetraffic Peon

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    No problem at all for doing SEO
     
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  8. Sweely

    Sweely Well-Known Member

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    No, Search Engine Optimization on a wordpress-based website with flash should not be hard nowadays. It used to be hard, as some people above me stated - but today, it's not. I've also seen some websites rank very well - that are using flash.
     
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    sherone Well-Known Member

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    I have read recently somewhere that, google and adobe is going to tie up regarding this issue. Google spider now can crawl flash files. so go ahead
     
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  10. Canonical

    Canonical Well-Known Member

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    Google was crawling Flash with homegrown tools long before Adobe gave them the specs for reading their binaries a little over a year ago. But though they know how to index text from within a .swf file better these days, Flash STILL sucks from an SEO perspective.

    I heard Matt Cutts himself in person last year after the Adobe announcement say that HTML sites will ALWAYS outrank Flash sites, and that it will be 10 years before Flash sites begin ranking well like HTML sites can sometimes without lots of inbound links. Why? Because the search engines' crawlers, indexers, ranking algorithms, utilities, backend systems, the index itself, etc. have all been built around indexing URLs and HTML/XHTML... NOT Flash structures.

    Flash sites built as a single .swf files STILL have basically the same problems they always did. A 50 page Flash site that is built as a single .swf with all navigation within the .swf is STILL going to get indexed as a single URL. It is synonymous to copying 50 pages worth of content into your single home page and expecting your home page to rank for the 50 different keyword phrases that were targeted by the individual pages. Not going to happen. You just diluted your keyword density by approximately 1/50th what it was on the individual pages. You just went from 50 titles, 50 H1s, 50+ H2s, etc. down to 1 title essentually.

    It's always easier to make 50 URLs each rank for a different keyword phrase for a total of 50 phrases than it is to make a single page rank for 50 different phrases.

    SEO for Flash has always been, is now, and will be for the foreseeable future almost 99.9% dependent on inbound links from external sites.

    You "can" maintain a separate HTML site behind the flash but why? It's double the work when you need to make a change. You "can" make a separate Flash .swf file for each of the 50 HTML pages on your site and call them from each of 50 different HTML pages and put all navigation in the HTML... but why? Why make it harder for the engines to index your content?

    My suggestion to people who want to use Flash is to build your entire site in HTML. If you want to also use Flash then create another HTML page that calls a single .swf file with a Flash version of the site and link to it from your home for those users who want the "rich" experience. But 9 times out of 10 most sites written in Flash can have the exact same look and feel with HTML and images. It's the web developer who just wants to do in Flash not because it offers something new, but because it's more fun for them to work with... a cooler toy than HTML.
     
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  11. megaresp

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    This isn't really true. I think you're glossing over issues important to designers.

    HTML/CSS is hopeless with fonts (and even the 3 usable fonts it does support render differently in different browsers despite identical settings), cross-browser issues make CSS more expensive to develop than it should be, Ajax doesn't create a browser history, and javascript has its own SEO issues.

    Yet Flash creates unacceptable barriers for SEO, so despite all the issues (from a design perspective) with HTML/CSS - it's the only viable way forward for a site owner looking to optimise.
     
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    Your best bet with Flash is to have some basic type on one side of the page so that you can give Google a little bit of help as others have said spiders can't read flash.
     
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  13. socialpark

    socialpark Greenhorn

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    #13
    Flash creates more then just the unacceptable barriers, its not supported on certain platforms, including iphone. So this is something to take into consideration as well when thinking to go with the flash based website.

    Also what Canonical pointed out about the state of the current and legacy infrastructure is quite true.


    Cheers.
     
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    Google can now crawl sites with flash. But it's always good if your site has html version.
     
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    If you just call a .swf flash in your html, it is not very bad for seo, if you are a whole flash site, it really not good for se to index them! Text is more good to be crawled!
     
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    i know google developed an algorithm that explores Flash file that sees the content on the flash.. amazing isn't it :)
     
    nyhl, Dec 6, 2009 IP