Links that suck and links that don't suck

you're right about those post but thru sigs you gain traffic

 

Forum sigs are awesome for traffic if you target it right. My million dollar a year business has its success partially due to that (maybe 30%). The rest was due to SEO.

 

NexDog - thanks for sharing your experience regarding the link wheel. Please keep us updated on this.

Did you interlink the web 2.0 properties? Some keep them separate in an attempt to avoid Google detecting it as a "link farm".

Personally I think that a lot of things work, including blog commenting, it's just that you need to do a lot more of the things that are not so effective. Personally I try to score each type of link out of 100 based on the potency I think it has, for example:

Forum sigs- 0.0005
Blog comments (not relevant blogs) - 0.002
Blog comments (relevant blogs) - 0.01
Article bio links - 0.1
In context link from a related site with good PR - 50

So in my made up example above you would need 500 links from an article to equal one in context link from an established site in your niche and 200 forum sig links to equal one link from an article bio.

 

Maybe forum sigs suck but today I monitored "buy viagra" and found out there are 6 forum profiles among the top10.

When quantity overides quality ...

Regards
Thibaut

 

Yah, forum profiles definitely work. The sigs don't.

 

ost directories now do suck. However, there are still many, DMOZ and Yahoo being the most well know, that have very selective criteria for entry, that Google still give quite a bit a link juice to. You're right though, about the bulk submissions, they're all crap, and it's one of the wort mistakes a new website promoter can do.

 

Thanks for the info man. Great work.

 

Article submission still works huh? I have trying to figure that out, a couple of people say otherwise, but after reading a few threads, article submission still seems to be an acceptable link building strat.

 

It's a little diminished formwhat it once was. but it still works. Especially if you submit completely unique, and well written (not spun) articles to each directory.

Submitting the same article to all directories isn't recommended. Neither is 'spinning' articles.

 

wow, great info. cause i am new to internet marketing, i often post comment on someone's blog to increase my link. but since you mention that it's useless, i think I'm going to stop doing it.


why do something useless if we can do something profitable right?

 

Seems obvious, but a lot of work. Would 4-5 unique articles at top sites really beat a competitor with 100 copies of an article? If so, is that b/c you are assuming that the directories would not accept the copied content, or b/c google would not index duplicate content. Or another reason?

I bet some of the lower end article directories would accept duplicate articles, and I know google would index at least a percentage of those accepted.

A final question: How many unique articles do you recommend submitting (along with directory submissions) to get results in a light to medium competitive niche?

 

Sure it's alot of work. otherwise everyone would do it, and everyone would be a the top of every search result.

I like unique content for several reasons.

First, Google discounts inks from obviously duplicate content. If you have links to your site in the exact same article on 4 different article directories and from that on 100 different sites, Google will certainly discount the link juice they pass.

Second, creating unique content has additional benifits. You can create your own blog with all your content, giving you more overall content. And you can social bookmark each article. That'll give you a significant, albeit short term, traffic boost. Plus you have more pages indexed, generating more organic traffic.

Third, it doesn't take long. A good article doesn't need t obe any longer than 200-300 words. I write a 200-300 word article in less than 15 minutes. When I promote a new site, I write 2 or 3 articles per week.

Fourth, if you don't want to write it yourself, there's a forum full of writers begging to write something for you for $0.02-$0.03 per word. if you really need it on the cheap, you can find someone to re-write articles for you for less than $5 per article.

 

Thanks Select, I hope I am not taking up too much of your time.

You said you social bookmark your articles, assuming they are also published on your site. Are you submitting content from your site to article directories? Is that not seen as duplicate content?

Thanks again.

 

Having links on duplicate content is ok.
Having links on duplicate content across hundreds of sites is not ok.

If it's just a handful of duplicates, Google has bigger things to worry about.

 

I have many ways to get back links:
#1. Ask for webmasters of high PR websites in the same niche to link to your website (very hard to get it done)
#2. Linkwheel. Create different content for all the properties. It doesn't have to be unique but it has to be different from one another.
#3. Angela Method. Too many people is doing it, but it's very good.
#4. Article Marketing. Very good but expensive and time consuming.
#5. Video Marketing. It will get better by next year or so.

 

Good Info...quality links are always the best in the end. I've had new sites with high pr backlinks rank higher in the serps then old sites with thousands of backlinks.. As long as you know your competitors, you can outrank them if you know their link building strategy.. there is plenty of seo software to tell you how

 

I've been saying this for a long time, though I'm not as hot on article directories as most people are. I'd rather have the article on a quality related Web site, but that isn't always possible.

Consider the Jury to be in with a verdict, "Your Honor".

1. Might as well be money laundering, but with links instead. "On the charge of laundering links for SEO purposes, we the jury find the defendant guilty as charged."
2. I haven't bought it, but I've heard from people who have (as well as those who resell it). It's basically forum profile and blog spam. "On the charge of spamming the Internet, we the jury find the defendant guilty as charged."
3. Google claims that it considers this to be a "paid link" of sorts while others claim it works, but the evidence supports both arguments. If I had to make a definitive claim, it would be go ahead and do it, but be careful in how you execute it.