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Suggestion Change how itraders are displayed on posts

Discussion in 'Support & Feedback' started by campolar, Sep 11, 2009.

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  1. #1
    Right now, on posts the amount of itraders is shown on the top right of posts along with other details... It shows:

    iTrader: (50)

    That shows the current amount of positive itraders (after deducting negative ones)...

    If it can be changed to:

    iTrader: (50/10)

    In that, it shows that the person has 50 positive itraders and 10 negative ones. This saves time of a buyer/seller by going in details of a member's itrader
     
    campolar, Sep 11, 2009 IP
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  2. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #2
    Not possible without major changes to how iTrader works (or putting a tremendous load on the DB servers). Something like that would be nice, but not really going to get into gutting iTrader until after vBulletin 4.0 comes out.
     
    digitalpoint, Sep 11, 2009 IP
  3. campolar

    campolar Peon

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    #3
    not familiar with how vB works (i'm an open-source lover [almost]) but i'm just guessing its something like, show total points? it can be changed to show positive points / show negative points (i skipped php) and then hav a red styling added (if dp wants to keep the green theme and not use any default which comes with v4.0?)
     
    campolar, Sep 11, 2009 IP
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    ChrisMiller Prominent Member

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    #4
    Good idea, it will save time and bandwidth.
     
    ChrisMiller, Sep 11, 2009 IP
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #5
    Lol... thanks for the "how to" lesson. :)

    ...but it's more like iTrader total is calculated and stored as a total number every time the user gets an iTrader. The total is stored in the DB (rather than calculated on the fly) so you don't need to do DB queries every time you want to display it. So to display number of negative iTraders (or even number of positive iTraders) you would need to be making queries to the DB every time you want to display that number for anyone. Definitely not worth the load it would put on servers adding many queries per page (additional query for every post when viewing a thread). The only realistic way to do it would be change how iTrader fundamentally works, alter the database to store total number of negatives and calculate it whenever it changes and store it in the DB.
     
    digitalpoint, Sep 11, 2009 IP
  6. campolar

    campolar Peon

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    Or, just like the total itraders, the db can be programmed to also store the positive and negative ones, so this way too, no db queries need to run...
     
    campolar, Sep 12, 2009 IP
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    harrisunderwork Well-Known Member

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    Yes but that would also require an extra field to be added to the database and an extra query to calculate and update that field.

    Thats what is shawn talking about :)

    Seriously that mod would be great.

    I would try on a local system to look that way and report soon to shawn. ;)
     
    harrisunderwork, Sep 12, 2009 IP
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    campolar Peon

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    Cool, any luck on a local machine?
     
    campolar, Sep 13, 2009 IP
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    #9
    This must be a safe idea for DP buyers, as shawn said, technically they won't be able to make that system. But we can do that one manually, when we are going to deal with any DP member, simply we can check his profile. I know it's a time wasting option. But we must think about the resources of DP, we get all service from DP at free of charge. So we must help them with high overloaded mechanism, simplicity is best :)

    Thanks
    Blog.
     
    blog8491, Sep 13, 2009 IP
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    Bohra Prominent Member

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    Very Nice Idea not everyone actually checks itrader if the amount is above 5 i guess

    on the itrader page i see a option "Members who left negative:" so probably the value is already there in the db table
     
    Bohra, Sep 13, 2009 IP
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #11
    It's queried for when you look at an iTrader page. I'm just saying that making that query for every post when looking at a thread is not worth it. We'll see what happens with it after vBulletin 4 comes out.
     
    digitalpoint, Sep 13, 2009 IP
  12. harrisunderwork

    harrisunderwork Well-Known Member

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    Exactly as Shawn said, till now there is no column in db that would store that static value of itraders. All have to be calculated on the fly and all of us already know how much stressed are the DP servers :D
     
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    I think it would be easier just to have it say Scammer or Not A Scammer. That way no one would need to worry about putting in any due diligence.
     
    TikTok, Sep 13, 2009 IP
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    A Bad itrader wont always mean scammer i guess.. sometimes incomplete service or even bad quality service or product can get u a red rep but doesnt mean the person is a scammer
     
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    Not to forget I'll get a negative itrader if leave one for a scammer. :/
     
    Helvetii, Sep 13, 2009 IP
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    harrisunderwork Well-Known Member

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    #16
    I think he is just saying on a lighter side, correct. ;)
     
    harrisunderwork, Sep 13, 2009 IP