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Help! Email marketing is a fraud?

Discussion in 'General Business' started by uzdane, Sep 3, 2009.

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    We bought Email marketing service two times,they said they would send our AD to thousands of real emails. Then the quantity of visits to our website is actually more,but i guess they are fake,bcs they just visit my website,not doing anything.
    Are there something like software to do fake visitors? Is there anybody could let me know? thanks
     
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  2. funkymario

    funkymario Notable Member

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    unless your email marketing is extremely targeted and and double opt in, you can't expect sales from unsolicited emails, people will just consider it spam and delete your message or even worse, report your website, and yes those were probably fake visitors.
     
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    tehOwnerers Guest

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    Email marketing is not fraud...

    However, read up about the CAN SPAM act.
     
    tehOwnerers, Sep 3, 2009 IP
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    kris1911 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, email marketing will mostly give you only fake visitors. By the way, buying visitors itself is not good way. better adword will help you a lot to give you legit visitors. Most important thing is you should make your website full of good content so that visitor will love to visit again.
     
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    mentos Prominent Member

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    If they visit your site and not do anything,it mean that the traffic is generated not by human visiting.
    Yes there is such thing as traffic generator tools.
     
    mentos, Sep 4, 2009 IP
  6. uzdane

    uzdane Peon

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    Thank you all above very much!
     
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    BW1 Well-Known Member

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    if they only go to the first page and thats it, its probably fake.
     
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    alistair80 Well-Known Member

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    Unsolicited emails do not work. Most of em end up in the junk folder or otherwise deleted by user. There are many fake services offered in the different places that use worldwide pop-under ads instead of email marketing...thats why you may notice an "increase" in visitors; it doesnt result in anything positive though!
     
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    kashadvertise Peon

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    It all depends the services you are providing on your site. If the service is not interesting it will not grape the attention of visitors and most people will close it after few seconds.
     
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    TriciaAbney Member

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    true- have to make sure you have quality content and a strong call to action before any email campaign and strong analytics installed to see where visitors are coming from and how long they stay.
     
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    Those visitors are probably just clicking to see who is responsible for spamming them.
     
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    Sn1per Peon

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    Emailling is not fraud. If you provide an optout and some sort of mailing address, you will be fine. If you are promoting something in the email that is intended on stealing money or personal information, then, yes, you are playing with fraud.
     
    Sn1per, Sep 4, 2009 IP
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    duperhost Well-Known Member

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    You need to have a list to make it legal by sending to "Safe lists" , as email marketing like spamming to anyone you do not know its Illegal

    but spam is not limited to SPAM sent via fax, email, instant messaging, or usenet/newsgroups.

    try to do it the right way to marketing for your website.
     
    duperhost, Sep 4, 2009 IP
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    sainoverseas Peon

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    We are also running our Outsourcing campaign with the help of Email Marketing & Ad Posting. We are getting response Awsam.

    With Regards,
    Sain Overseas Services Pvt. Ltd.
    sainoverseas.com
     
    sainoverseas, Sep 5, 2009 IP
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    Sending unsolicited emails to people without their permission is spam.
     
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    Exactly, and that's not what email marketing is anyway. If you want to use email as a marketing tool, build your own list of opt-in subscribers that actually WANT to receive communication from you. Then, not only do you not have to worry about spam complaints possibly getting your site shut down, but you're also much more likely to make sales.
     
    Hagen, Sep 6, 2009 IP
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    Email marketing is not a fraud but, whatever company you choose, make sure they are CAN SPAM compliant and use double opt-ins. If not, you have no hope of getting good quality traffic.

    Remember, it's better to have less, more targetted, quality traffic than loads of poorly qualified traffic. It's all about making sales.

    SP
     
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    Generally, relying on someone else's list to market to won't do you any good. You don't know how old the addresses are, how they obtained them, and how much they "spam" them with other offers, or if they are actually real people.

    Email marketing is most successful when you build your own list, or partner with a similar service.
    Even still , open rates are low compared to other marketing attempts...if you get 3% you are doing good..at least direct mail post cards get the promo in their hand but the list still needs to be targeted.
     
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    Monyak Greenhorn

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    I dont know if email marketing is fraud - but here are the facts.

    1) Less than .001% feedback/return.
    2) 99.9% People HATE SPAM.
    3) 100% ILLEGAL (in most countries)

    Need I say more?
     
    Monyak, Sep 7, 2009 IP
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    keen4kash Well-Known Member

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    I have had limited success with email marketing and do not really use anymore as i thought 99% were just bad and using fake

    You should research which are better companies to use and rely on multiple testimonies from customers rather than a sales ad pitch or affiliate seller hoping to get income.

    I found ones that guarantee that so many % of your emails will be read or % reach inbox or % of email recipients will click thru to visit your site are best bcos they have should provide tracking stats for your campaign to analyse and you can use your site stats to compare. But in saying that even all those stats or hits can be faked or generated by bots and not real humans. Bottomline its too risky and probably a waste of money unless you find that 1% of legit companies out of all the scam ones.......... there would be at least 6-7 marketing methods i would use before spending money on email marketing.

    Like (not meant to be extensive as i am not an internet marketing guru ok)

    1) PPC - google adwords is still the best
    2) Submission to social bookmarking sites
    3) Search engine submission
    4) Setting up like squidoo lens or hubpages with unique related content that links to your main site
    5) Good seo and rankings to get natural search engine traffic (very hard for new sites unless low competition)
    6) Buy banner space and links on high traffic and targeted sites
    7) Post sig links at related forums but Dont Spam
    8) Offline advertising to your target audience
    9) Article submissions to directories with back links
    10) Buying blog reviews on sites with similar keywords and content can help get search engine traffic and rankings
    11) Solo / Ezine ads at traffic exchanges similar to email marketing but get sends to optin members
    12) Depending on what you are selling or service or site: Manual traffic exchanges but not safe for adsense
    13) email marketing as last resort as its probably a waste of money
     
    keen4kash, Sep 9, 2009 IP