Pr vs serp

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by ankit_frenz, Aug 30, 2009.

  1. #1
    Hi,

    What do you think how much has pr to do with serps? Is it just one of the thousands of factors effecting serp? OR serp is directly proportional to PR ?

    Well how far relevancy of backlinking site's niche effects pr?
    OR no matter what niche..high pr backlinks are always preferred..?

    Does PR0 backlinks cause penalities? or they do some good?

    new sites shouldn't build links too fast..? is it true?

    This are a few of my doubts..any replies will me appreciated.
    Thanks
     
    ankit_frenz, Aug 30, 2009 IP
  2. akashvista

    akashvista Peon

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    well PR only depends upon the no. of links that have got and also their quality it doesn't matter that whether those links to your site are related to yours or not but in SERPs there are many more factors that decide your rankings links is also a major factor there but here this is also matters as from where these links are coming from (i.e. if the links are related to your site or not)
     
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  3. ankit_frenz

    ankit_frenz Active Member

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    so basically whats the use of pr?
    isn't it that serp is all what we want?
     
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  4. akashvista

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    yes PR just tells you that if that site has got quality back links but it just helps people to know that if site provides something that is worthit coz any site will get loads of links if it provide anything useful.
     
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  5. Jim4767

    Jim4767 Prominent Member

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    #5
    This question comes up again and again on Digital Point. Since PR is a Google thing, here's what Google says (contrary to many misinformed DP posters):

    "Pages that we [Google] believe are important pages receive a higher PageRank and are more likely to appear at the top of the search results."
    In simple terms that means: higher PR —> higher SERPs.

    http://www.google.com/corporate/tech.html
     
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    PageRank relies on the uniquely democratic nature of the web by using its vast link structure as an indicator of an individual page's value. In essence, Google interprets a link from page A to page B as a vote, by page A, for page B. But, Google looks at more than the sheer volume of votes, or links a page receives; it also analyzes the page that casts the vote. Votes cast by pages that are themselves "important" weigh more heavily and help to make other pages "important".

    SERP, is the listing of web pages returned by a search engine in response to a keyword query. The results normally include a list of web pages with titles, a link to the page, and a short description showing where the keywords have matched content within the page. A SERP may refer to a single page of links returned, or to the set of all links returned for a search query.
     
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  7. ankit_frenz

    ankit_frenz Active Member

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    Thats the basic thing and we all know..well we were discussing here about the connection between the two..
    How many links per day for a brand new site considered resonable?
     
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    Promoman Active Member

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    PR is a good indicator for linking to that site. You want a link from a high PR site. That's about it as far as I am concerned. High SERPS are ahieved with good content with keyword denisity and proper placement of keywords in meta tags. I have seen lower PR1 sites rank higher than PR5 sites for some keyword searches.
     
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    I don't think SERP is depends on PR and PR depends on SERP.
    SERP - If you get more backlinks + You are fine with ONSITE SEO, you can get it
    PR - If you get more backlinks from ONTOPIC sources, you can get more PR, Good PR can bring more traffic. But I don't think, it can help with SERP.
     
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    Jim4767 Prominent Member

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    I remain dumbfounded! :confused: There are a lot of mental blocks out there.

    As I posted above, Google couldn't be plainer in its clear statement that higher PR makes it more likely that you will appear at the top of the search results.

    I couldn't care less about the posts that say, "My PR1 page outranks a PR5 page." There are too many other factors to consider. But if all other things are equal, the higher PR page will outrank the lower page.

    http://www.google.com/corporate/tech.html
     
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  11. akashvista

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    Very much agree. Rankings depend upon too many factors its not only about links but yeah PR does give an idea about how good or bad that site is. Thanks for posting the URL and letting us know!
     
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  12. ankit_frenz

    ankit_frenz Active Member

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    any factor that i think effects is how new the site is...new site usually score some bonus points..score higher when they are new..but if they don't show their relevancy soon they are put into the sandox..this is just my assumption :)
     
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    Of course SERPS is more important. Does not matter if you have pr5, I have a pr2 site ranks #1. ;)
     
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    I'm more for SERPS. I could care less if a sight is PR0, but gets lots of traffic from ranking high in the SERPS. At the end of the day, thats all that really matters right?
     
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    Well what i think pr is nothing, as pr is not going to drive traffic on your site, on serp gona bring visitor to your site, which may result in sales. So basic is traffic which can be through serp.
     
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    #16
    PR is just one of the many factors that effects SERP.

    All related niche backlinks considers to boost keyword position in the SERP.

    Backlink sites PR is a not a matter. But, backlinks from high PR sites rapidly boost your position in SERP. Always it is imp to get backlinks from high quality & good PR related niche sites.

    PR0 backlinks doesn't cause penalty.
     
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    PR is just thing thing show people: this site is valuable (after people get to it ) . But ,the problem is how to make people get to this site -- in my opinion
     
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    seohelper12 Greenhorn

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    I do not think that higher pr means higher SERP. PR is just Google impression on that particular page but SERP is more important to gain more traffic. Even with PR2 or PR3 you can get good SERP.
     
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  19. ankit_frenz

    ankit_frenz Active Member

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    #19
    Almost all questions are answered..expect one:-
    new sites shouldn't build links too fast..? is it true?how many links per week for new site is considered safe?
     
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    It was not not mentioned any where in the web, search engines never told released information regarding this. But all know that doing over off-page optimization will be panelized by Search engines.

    Doing best on-page optimization makes your site into get serp even your site is new.
     
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