[How To's] Data Centre in India

Hello folks,

I am Sunny Kumar Gupta, been fascinated by the internet since childhood and currently a Web Developer, Designer.

I plan to set-up a datacentre in India... (no LOL's please). But the main thing i need to know is, where do i get my connectivity from?
Multiple ISP's would do the task or do i need a direct Backbone connection (where to get it from?)

Also, just for my knowledge, if there was an advance data centre setup in India, would you buy space from there?

Regards,
Sunny Kumar Gupta

P.S: Please, please, please don't reply disheartening comments such as: 'That would never work' OR 'LOL... are you serious, go get a mint!'

 

why reinvent the wheel, I would imagine that there would be colo or data houses available that you could place your servers in, as many as you want.. then you don't need to worry about the 10 million things you need to do, to make it compliant, secure, reliable, fast etc.

 

actually, i want to be the one where people place their servers... anyways i'm not goin to start the centre tommorow...
I'll take long time.... but currently just increasing my viewpoint on the topic...

 

Its depend on the pricing of the product.
If the price is cheaper,then i'll buy it.
If you setup DC.all those thing cannot be done by yourself.
Only the professional people can do it.

 

lol... don't worry about professionalism... i have a team of brilliant professionals trained from CISCO and SUN.... at least they know what a wire means...

 

get a quote from dell servers , pay visit to some datacentre establishment
you can look upto VSNL /reliance for bandwith

 

yep... monetary expenditures are not my problem... the basic infrastructure and networking is....

 

Well which city are u in ?

Its better to control the local BSNL Office and the Airtel office i think these people provide such services

 

Well not sure how to set up a data center but you can lease one in Reliance IDC in Mumbai, they handle servers of all the big boys

 

hey thx for the info regarding, Reliance IDC k , so i think i ought to start by having a little conversation with the guys at BSNL/Airtel.
Thats a start for the backbone connections.

By the way the city would be Pune.

 

Where in pune i too am from pune these people dont have connections everywhere u know..

I Just found about http://www.ikf.co.in/servers.asp seems they are also in pune they are using VSNL aka TATA Communications

 

Hi, I am not in the city, 20 minutes away in Akurdi.
And i am a student in D. Y. Patil College of Engineering.

I know further than this point many of you are going to mock at the fact that me being a student am thinking of unachievable heights, i just have one thing to say: 'Thank You'

 

wow building a data centre wont be a easy task, u have engineers to create the building plan, etc?

 

i dont think anyone is mocking you, nothing wrong in the idea, we are just curious. Usually large companies open up data centre's because of the amount of $$$;s that need to be invested initially. If you have the money, experience then why not....oh and land ofcourse

 

Oh well the thing is opening a data center in India isnt a good idea specially coz we need lots of stuff say proper electricity conditions , proper network, and lots more

Well Best of luck with the project if u succed to do contact me maybe i collocate or rent a dedi server from ur data center if u give me a good discount

 

building data center is not that hard! Buying network is the hardest thing! you can except good speeds within your contry but not to US and Europe .

 

Just for my knowledge, would you please tell me, if i buy a direct connection to backbone, then why will the speed to Europe and American countries suffer?

Also, i would like to ask, why do i need special engineers, can i not just buy large unfurnished space, convert it into an office and host my servers, with the right equipments?

 

There's no such thing as "direct connection to backbone". It's more complicated than that.

You need to pay for two things.

1) Physical cabling to a "peering point", which is a building where you can find other, larger ISPs to connect to.

2) Transit agreement with one or more larger ISPs who can carry your traffic out of India to various other countries.

I don't know much about the Indian ISP market, but if it's anything like Malaysia, the principal problem will be that it's very difficult to find reliable overseas transit. The former national monopoly here, now gone private-ish, has entire departments whose sole function is to lick the regulators' balls and pad their pockets. Consequently they continue to enjoy monopoly or near-monopoly on several crucial choke points of the Malaysian internet.

You can buy the fattest fibre in the world and run it straight to Mumbai or wherever India's principal peering site is, but you'll still have problems getting out of the country. Also, the total amount of bandwidth to India just isn't that high, and it's being split among all the different ISPs and their customers.

Data centres are not offices. They are very specialised facilities designed to create optimal networking, power, and climate conditions without interruption. The power density is extremely high - it's not like you can just get some electrician to stop by and put in a few extra power points; you'll need new feeder cable and possibly a substation from your electricity provider, and a well-engineered internal distribution arrangement. You also need aggressive fire protection or you can lose everything in a few minutes. All this stuff costs a lot of money. Have a look at this data centre tour: http://order.1and1.com/flash/datacenter/index.html

When I was much younger in this business I placed my first server at a colocation facility that was like you describe - a generic building with some air-conditioners and a bunch of shelves with PCs on them. It sucked. There were frequent outages, constant network congestion, and disturbing emails like "we apologise to those of our customers on the lower shelves whose servers suffered water damage this weekend." That was 12 years ago. In this day and age, anyone who saw your "office" datacentre would turn and run screaming in the other direction.